Hell up in Syria and Iraq

[Marvel]

They released a vid yesterday where they took a couple HUNDRED dudes made them dig a huge ditch, get in, and unloaded on all of them. Never seen that many people go at one time. It reminded me of being in school and reading about white people killing thousands of native of the americas at a time, could never fathom it

fixed

 

[Family Man]

u have to wonder what the extent of this conflict would be if islam didnt exist at least i do

the apologists cant wonder such a thing, but its worth thinking about

The world would be a better place.

 

[Broke Wave]

@Broke Wave probably can't even sing


let me hear and you try and top this on the next podcast

al hum'du Allah al hum'du Allah al hum'du Allah

prime obscure 88m3

 

[newworldafro]

It's all good and all an all islamic state but I see only men there
Where will they find women to go live with them in that giant sausage fest ?

They got rid of a bunch of men this week...I guess they'll substitute for their husbands .... .........

I understand that a lot of officers left, which is the reason so many police and military weren't sure what to do. So my question is why did the officers leave like that with all the equipment they had at their disposal. Equipment that has been raided at all the military bases around Iraq....

I'm just by this shiit and other aspects......

Now I'm reading/hearing that some of this is organic, or is actually Iraqis fed up with the government, that were part of the beginning seige of the country, but now are intermingled more clearly into what is happening.. idk.. .....

idk

 

[thekingsmen]

The world would be a better place.

White Supremacy would still exist and it would be at a faster rate. So in the end to you, white supremacy makes it a better place

 

[newworldafro]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/crude-oil-pushes-toward-107-after-iraq-refinery-attacked-2014-06-18

Crude oil edges toward $107 after Iraq refinery attacked
Militants may have 75% control of the oil facility

By William L. Watts and Barbara Kollmeyer, MarketWatch

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Crude-oil prices edged higher on Wednesday, with the U.S. benchmark pushing back toward $107 a barrel after militants in Iraq attacked the country's biggest oil refinery, underlining worries about potential threats to export facilities in the south.

Nymex WTI crude oil for July delivery CLN4 -0.02% picked up 34 cents, or 0.4%, to $106.73 a barrel, partly recovering from a 54-cent loss on Tuesday. WTI crude is also taking a cue from expectations for tighter domestic supplies in the U.S.

The European benchmark, Brent oil for August delivery UK:LCOQ4 +0.18% , which is the most sensitive to developments in Iraq, rose 18 cents, or 0.2%, to $113.63 a barrel. Nymex crude last week topped $107 a barrel as the conflict in Iraq heated up, while Brent had briefly topped $114.

The refinery, located in the northern city of Baiji, is the biggest producer of refined fuel for Iraq’s domestic markets. The attack doesn’t affect production or exports from the country’s main oil fields and facilities in the south. The attack, however, underlined concerns over the situation in the country.

“The refinery, which supplies Baghdad with gasoline and diesel, shows that the situation in Iraq is not getting better,” said Phil Flynn, senior market analyst at Price Futures Group. “Oil companies are pulling out nonessential personnel even in the south of the country ... Oil companies are trying to export while the exporting is good yet the possibility of an oil shock is rising [if] the south of Iraq starts to fall.” See: Why traders may be overconfident about Iraq’s oil exports .

 

[IVS]

This whole thing with terrorist taking pictures and video of themselves doing dirt and killing people makes me wonder how much of this sh!t is really genuine.

 

[Blackking]

Most of this is fake.... but still embarrassing for Sunnis.... nikkas really have no excuse this time for islam

 

[newarkhiphop]

This whole thing with terrorist taking pictures and video of themselves doing dirt and killing people makes me wonder how much of this sh!t is really genuine.

you mean they fake killing people?

 

[Lord Beasley]

i just heard cheney say this is all Obama's fault. msnbc went overHAM on him for that.

This whole thing with terrorist taking pictures and video of themselves doing dirt and killing people makes me wonder how much of this sh!t is really genuine.

some of those pictures looked doctored. but why would they do that?

 

[88m3]

Maliki’s wrong: ISIS is so rich, it doesn’t need Saudi money
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki’s office released a statement Tuesday that sounded suspiciously similar to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s frequent Saudi-bashing comments since the Syrian uprising began.

In a statement released as Islamist militants inched closer to Baghdad, the Iraqi cabinet said Saudi Arabia should be held responsible for militant financing and crimes committed by insurgent groups.

"We hold it [Saudi Arabia] responsible for what these groups are receiving in terms of financial and moral support," the cabinet said in a statement released by Maliki’s office. “The Saudi government should be held responsible for the dangerous crimes committed by these terrorist groups."

Consider this statement released last week on Syrian state media: "Terrorism is spreading in front of the eyes of the western world... and alongside it are the fingers of Saudi Arabia, providing money and arms," noted the Al-Thawra daily.

Over the past three years, as the Arab Spring morphed into Islamist Fall and is now slouching toward Sectarian Winter, we’ve grown accustomed to the fault lines in the Muslim world and where the various regimes fall on this divide.

Put simply, Syria and Iraq have turned into the battleground for aproxy war between the Shiites-Iran-Hezbollah-Assad-Maliki on one side and the Sunnis-Saudi Arabia-Turkey-Qatar-other Gulf states on the other.

Saudi Arabia of course has no love for the Shiite-Assad-Maliki camp. But accusing the Saudi government of financing ISIS (Islamic State in Iraq and Greater Syria) is taking things too far.

“There’s no evidence of that. Sure, there are informal networks operating across the Gulf, in countries like Kuwait etcetera,” said Shiraz Maher, senior fellow at the London-based International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation (ICSR). “But as for the Saudi state, it doesn’t make sense. ISIS is also a threat to the Saudi regime.”

Jihadists who hate the 'corrupt, ostentatious' Saudis

The al Sauds are no strangers to militant Islamist threats to their ancient, corrupt, often reviled dynasty.

Back in 1979, when a group of hardline Sunni militants seized the Grand Mosque – or Masjid al-Haram – in Mecca during the hajj pilgrimage, the ringleader of the attack, Juhayman al-Otaybi, noted that the al Saud dynasty had “lost its legitimacy because it was corrupt, ostentatious and had destroyed Saudi culture”.

Otaybi’s successors and jihadist brothers – from Osama bin Laden to ISIS chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi – have pretty much parroted the discourse over the past few decades with a few verbal tweaks.

Most experts believe funding from private charities from Gulf countries have made their way to ISIS and other Islamist rebel groups in Syria.

But that’s not state funding on a massive scale.

While Saudi Arabia is a favorite bogeyman for Maliki, Assad, and their advisors, the tiny kingdom of Kuwait has “emerged as a financing and organizational hub for charities and individuals supporting Syria’s myriad rebel group,” according to a report by the Brookings Institute’s Saban Center.

Kuwait’s relatively weak financial rules and lax enforcement have made it a perfect conduit for Islamist financing – including TV channels broadcasting hardline sectarian positions across the Arab world.

When the Saudis crack down on al Qaeda

In an interview this weekend with the Arabic TV station Al Arabiya, a Saudi interior ministry spokesman noted that, “We recognize that all terrorist-related groups are a threat, including ISIS. But our security forces are very well prepared to handle any terrorism threat.”

I wouldn’t necessarily dismiss that claim.

Back in 2004, as the US was still scrambling to trace bin Laden, the Saudis were going after the leaders of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) with systematic precision.

Just months after Saudi security forces tracked and gunned down then-AQAP chief Khalid bin Ali Haj, they nailed his successor, Abdel Aziz al-Muqrin.

At that time, Muqrin’s brutal, sensational assaults - including attacks on expatriate residential compounds, as well as kidnappings and slayings of Western hostages – were dominating the headlines.

But the Saudi counter-terror program was so efficient, AQAP had to shift its operations to neighboring Yemen.

Recruiting Saudis for jihad

The Saudis – like the Turks – may have been lax about funding Islamist groups at the start of the Syrian uprising. But ISIS is a relatively new group (it emerged around April 2013) and Riyadh is keenly aware of the threat it represents to the kingdom.

Last month, the traditionally secretive Saudi interior ministry announced the discovery of a jihadist cell linked to ISIS, which was trying to restart activities in Saudi Arabia. The cell had 62 members, most of them Saudis, and they had started collecting donations and establishing an arms trafficking network between Saudi Arabia and Yemen, according to the interior ministry statement.

The very public disclosure about the newly discovered jihadist cell underscored Saudi fears of a blowback from the Syrian conflict, a familiar experience for the Saudis following the 1980s anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan.

It’s hard to get an accurate picture of how many Saudis have made their way to Syria. In December 2013, the ICSR estimated that between 380 to around 1,000 Saudi nationals had gone to Syria. That number is expected to be a lot higher following ISIS’ recent battlefield successes.

More than a decade ago, Saudi authorities were criticized for not doing enough to stem the flow of their jihad-bound nationals heading to Iraq following the 2003 US invasion. But, as my colleague Wassim Nasr notes on the FRANCE 24 Arabic site, Saudi jails – notably the kingdom’s sprawling al Hair prison – were full of jihadists returning home from Iraq.

Saudi Arabia has declared ISIS a terrorist organization and has banned its nationals from going to Syria to wage jihad. In recent years, the kingdom has opened a number of de-radicalization centers for jihadists returning from Afghanistan, the US detention center at Guantanamo Bay and now Syria.

But the centers have had at best a mixed track record, at worst a lousy history of reintegrating returning jihadists.

In an interview with the New York Times, Mansour al-Turki, a spokesman for the Saudi Interior Ministry, admitted that it was impossible for the authorities to keep track of every Saudi who wants to join the jihad in Syria. “We try to prevent it, but there are limits to what we can do,” said Turki. “You cannot prevent all young men from leaving the kingdom. Many of them travel to London or other places, and only then to Turkey, and Syria.”

Saudi Arabia is a much sought-after recruiting ground for jihadist groups. ISIS recruitment leaflets were recently found stuffed into car door handles in the capital of Riyadh, according to the Abu Dhabi-based newspaper, The National, and social media sites frequently target young Saudis.

‘The richest terror group - ever’

Following the latest ISIS push into the Iraqi heartland, the group probably doesn’t even need aggressive recruitment drives.

ISIS today is giving al Qaeda a run for its money. Al Qaeda chief Ayman Zawahiri may have distanced himself from ISIS, but the group’s phenomenal recent successes have overshadowed the parent group.

Interestingly, al Qaeda affiliates such as AQAP have been noticeably silent about ISIS -- there’s not much criticism of the group’s brutal techniques here -- and for misguided young men seeking meaning through holy war, ISIS terrain is the jihadist Memphis.

For that matter, ISIS today can survive without any funding from Saudi or Gulf private charities. The group has been very effective at generating its own revenue stream from “taxes” on businesses and goods, to oil sales from the oil-rich territory it effectively controls from the eastern Syrian city of Raqaa to the outskirts of Baghdad.

With the fall of Mosul, ISIS has become “the richest terror group ever,” according to Business Insider, after the group looted the equivalent of $429 million from the city’s central bank, according to Iraqi officials. A large quantity of gold bullion was also stolen, according to the regional governor.

In an interview with the BBC’s Newshour, ICSR director Peter Neumann estimated that ISIS was worth around $900 million before the fall of Mosul. Following the bank lootings and the huge amount of arms it acquired from the fleeing Iraqi army, that figure has climbed to more than $2 billion, according to Neumann.

Maliki may blame the Saudis for the latest ISIS advance on Iraq. But for once, Saudi money doesn't seem to talking and even if it were, ISIS is in no mood to listen.

http://leelajacinto.blogs.france24....maliki-blasts-saudis-kingdom-not-funding-isis

 

[ch15x]

All that warring in the past few decades...:cozeww:

 

[88m3]

Obama speaking live on NBC

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

These ISIS cats just took all the money and weapons the US gave them to "liberate" Syria and in turn used it to overthrow Iraq.

This administration is so fukking clueless...

 

[Ikwa]

Most of this is fake.... but still embarrassing for Sunnis.... nikkas really have no excuse this time for islam

what did you think would happen after the US gave all the power to the Shia? My Sunni brehs don't play

Shias been oppressing Iraqi Sunnis since the invasion and now its payback, even my Kurdish brehs taking cities from the Shia army