HBO Doesn't Want To Disclose Cinnamon and Queen Con's PPV Numbers

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Thats what happens when a PPV is $69.99 for American viewers, and only one of the fighters speaks English, but happens to be of Pakastani descent by way of England. Oh, and he's a Muslim, oh, and he's the underdog. Oh, with a history of a glass chin, who's fighting someone two weight classes above him.

The champ is a redheaded Mexican who speaks no English whatsoever, being promoted by a cross dressing, coke sniffing, has been Mexican American fighter whom I get the feeling his own people dont care for. The champ has no story to tell, nothing intriguing about him, no controversy, no nothing. The only thing interesting about him is that he's a Mexican redhead. Unless Oscar is selling the fight with a story that a retired redheaded Irish milkman who spent time in Mexico 25 years ago and is having a reunion with his son that he didnt know about, then there was no story. Lets be reality brehs, even exotic animals lose folks interest after seeing it on YT. I saw the Liger, thought to myself wow, and havent given it two thoughts since. Why would the average sports consumer shell out $69.99 for the exhibition sport's equivalent of a red headed Liger?

Adrien Broner has the potential to be bigger than Canelo via controversy and success in the ring.
 

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They need To side with Haymon and get a better marketing scheme going. Because people gotta know about the whole card not just the main fight
 

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Thats what happens when a PPV is $69.99 for American viewers, and only one of the fighters speaks English, but happens to be of Pakastani descent by way of England. Oh, and he's a Muslim, oh, and he's the underdog. Oh, with a history of a glass chin, who's fighting someone two weight classes above him.

The champ is a redheaded Mexican who speaks no English whatsoever, being promoted by a cross dressing, coke sniffing, has been Mexican American fighter whom I get the feeling his own people dont care for. The champ has no story to tell, nothing intriguing about him, no controversy, no nothing. The only thing interesting about him is that he's a Mexican redhead. Unless Oscar is selling the fight with a story that a retired redheaded Irish milkman who spent time in Mexico 25 years ago and is having a reunion with his son that he didnt know about, then there was no story. Lets be reality brehs, even exotic animals lose folks interest after seeing it on YT. I saw the Liger, thought to myself wow, and havent given it two thoughts since. Why would the average sports consumer shell out $69.99 for the exhibition sport's equivalent of a red headed Liger?

Adrien Broner has the potential to be bigger than Canelo via controversy and success in the ring.

:laff: :laff: :laff:

:dead: @ you seeing a Liger.

They should have manufactured a cartel-influenced storyline of some sort....:lolbron:

Of course...that might not bode well with the cartels....:whoa:
 

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Damn nikkas in here pulling out every excuse in the book :russ:
shyt flopped and canelo never doing a million without GGG.

nikkas in here blaming the network, the promoter, the arena, Khan, Pakistanis, Britain
shyts pathetic :mjlol:

These low ass cinco de mayo numbers and fan pressure going back canelo into a corner......GOOD
 

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They need To side with Haymon and get a better marketing scheme going. Because people gotta know about the whole card not just the main fight

Just curious. What are Al Haymon non Mayweather PPV numbers? Has he promoted a PPV that did 900k without Mayweather being involved? :sas1:

Canelo the biggest star in boxing right now and is on every other commercial in Mexico. What demographic , that gives a fukk about boxing, doesn't know about canelo all ready?



Btw ppl don't buy PPVs for the undercard.
 

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Just curious. What are Al Haymon non Mayweather PPV numbers? Has he promoted a PPV that did 900k without Mayweather being involved? :sas1:

Canelo the biggest star in boxing right now and is on every other commercial in Mexico. What demographic , that gives a fukk about boxing, doesn't know about canelo all ready?



Btw ppl don't buy PPVs for the undercard.
He or Showtime/CBS hasn't had a PPV since Floyd. They're actually building up fighters before trying to get people to pay. The Thurman and Porter fight will be on CBS, though.
 

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Triple g numbers ain't looking too bad now :ehh:
 

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He or Showtime/CBS hasn't had a PPV since Floyd. They're actually building up fighters before trying to get people to pay. The Thurman and Porter fight will be on CBS, though.

I understand that, has he ever had any PPVs without Floyd period. If so how did they do?

I see two marketing success that Haymon has had: Floyd and Broner. They both were successful for obvious reasons and we have no idea if Broner would have been a PPV star. Just curious why people think Haymon would be doing better than GBP with Canelo. LSC is a mexican fighter under Haymon and he is no where near as popular as Canelo was at the same age. OScar a coke head but he's done great making Canelo a mega star. No reason to discount that or hate.
 

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I understand that, has he ever had any PPVs without Floyd period. If so how did they do?

I see two marketing success that Haymon has had: Floyd and Broner. They both were successful for obvious reasons and we have no idea if Broner would have been a PPV star. Just curious why people think Haymon would be doing better than GBP with Canelo. LSC is a mexican fighter under Haymon and he is no where near as popular as Canelo was at the same age. OScar a coke head but he's done great making Canelo a mega star. No reason to discount that or hate.
I didn't bring up Haymon so I don't know. Leo Santa Cruz is good but he looks like any other mexican. Canelo is an irish cac that was born in mexico and speaks mexican spanish. ODLH was born in America and spoke/speaks good english with an american look to him.
 
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Damn nikkas in here pulling out every excuse in the book :russ:
shyt flopped and canelo never doing a million without GGG.

nikkas in here blaming the network, the promoter, the arena, Khan, Pakistanis, Britain
shyts pathetic :mjlol:

These low ass cinco de mayo numbers and fan pressure going back canelo into a corner......GOOD

Canelo and GGG wouldn't do a million if the fight was made today.

Oscar doesn't know how to promote without Shaefer

Canelo's last ppvs all should've been on HBO not PPV for one to build his name up more to the audience.

Secondly, they are marketing him as the new face of boxing which he isn't, because he lost to Floyd lol

Floyd became the face because he beat Oscar. If canelo would've beaten Floyd, then all his ppvs would've sold no matter who he fought, but he lost.

So Canelo can only do big ppv numbers if you build a fight properly, which is what they are doing with GGG by coming up with all these dumb ass reason why the fight isn't happening because of weight or whatever.

It's too build anticipation.

If Floyd would've fought Manny after he beat ricky hatton, He only would've made 60-80 million, he ended up making 300 million

the fact you that fans can't understand this is a business first, is the reason why the fail for the same promotion tactics over and over again.
 

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He or Showtime/CBS hasn't had a PPV since Floyd. They're actually building up fighters before trying to get people to pay. The Thurman and Porter fight will be on CBS, though.
Can we stop with this nonsense that PBC is building up fighters? They have done a shytty job with building up their crop of young fighters who should all be waaay more famous than they are. People barely pay attention to these prime-time boxing cards on major TV networks because the methodology of promoting these guys have been totally lackluster.
The fact that they have a heavyweight world champion KO specialist with a big personality and still no one cares about him is a total indictment on PBC as a boxing promotion.
 

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Can we stop with this nonsense that PBC is building up fighters? They have done a shytty job with building up their crop of young fighters who should all be waaay more famous than they are. People barely pay attention to these prime-time boxing cards on major TV networks because the methodology of promoting these guys have been totally lackluster.
The fact that they have a heavyweight world champion KO specialist with a big personality and still no one cares about him is a total indictment on PBC as a boxing promotion.
Who's doing a better job with their fighters?
 

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Canelo is always going to need help to sell over 400k...His limited talk, hit the gym hard and show up on fight night for the W mentality doesn't sell well...You need controversy to sell a fight... Amir Khan always been nothing more than a mere con that gasses himself up to be something he's not...He's not Hatton, he's not Lennox...dude never had any drawing power...
 
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