Hawaii Wildfires: Maui devastated; Lahaina completely destroyed

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I was going to blame white people but yeah

This was from one month ago:




And this is now:






I know joking online is an endorphin booster, but sometimes talking about reality is helpful.


People refused to believe the scientific projections, so you hoped they would believe the real-time data.

People refused to believe the real-time data, so you hoped they would believe the disasters that result.

If people refuse to believe the disasters that result, what hope is there?
 

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This is a horrendous story. You can’t even make it up.

The Earth is going to smite us for how we have abused it’s resources and it feels like just the beginning.
 

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The fukked up thing that no one is really talking about yet is with the insane cost of living here, the local people who were able to live in Lahaina due to inheriting their homes are definitely not going to be able to afford to rebuild after this. Now the land is going to be a free for all for rich a$$holes and greedy corporations to pilfer through, forcing more Hawaiians out of our ancestral homeland. This entire situation is fukked. A horrific situation for the working class, and yet a huge gift for the exploiter class.
 

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I was looking for this in TLR

This is awful


It was in TLR, just fell off the front page fast.


This is incomprehensible. A wildfire that kills 3-4 people is a really big deal. I'm pretty sure a wildfire this deadly has only happened 2-3 times in US history.

It turns out to be the 7th most deadly wildfire in US history, but the 2nd worst of the last hundred years. The top four deadliest wildfires were all in the upper midwest between 1871 and 1918, during a period of rapid development where poor forestry techniques led to frequent conflagrations on cleared-out land.
 
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The fukked up thing that no one is really talking about yet is with the insane cost of living here, the local people who were able to live in Lahaina due to inheriting their homes are definitely not going to be able to afford to rebuild after this. Now the land is going to be a free for all for rich a$$holes and greedy corporations to pilfer through, forcing more Hawaiians out of our ancestral homeland. This entire situation is fukked. A horrific situation for the working class, and yet a huge gift for the exploiter class.


Do you know if anyone in the area is talking about large-scale government assistance yet? (I'm talking Katrina-style rebuilding, beyond the typical federal disaster assistance.) Is there any chance of insurance covering for some folk? (I know, I shouldn't even ask).
 
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Do you know if anyone in the area is talking about large-scale government assistance yet? (I'm talking Katrina-style rebuilding, beyond the typical federal disaster assistance.) Is there any chance of insurance covering for some folk? (I know, I shouldn't even ask).
I haven't heard anything official. Everything happened so fast, and with all the people flying in and all the news coming out, it has been a bit overwhelming. Here on Oahu we have most of the available resources and the only burn ward in the state, so with all the displaced people coming in the big focus has been on how to aid them. I don't even know exactly what FEMA and the like have been doing on the ground so far, but I'm already hearing criticisms about their slow response. From what I understand they commandeered the shipyard here to facilitate the quick access for supplies to reach Maui, which is good, but people are worried it's going to effect the ability to bring in enough goods for the entire state. According to a coworker whose husband works for Hawaiian Airlines, people have been dumping donations at airports for them to ship over, but they've apparently been waiting for approval of some kind before they can, and so they've refused to take anything so far. Not sure if the government is the hold up with that, or if it's a corporate thing.

I have heard warnings that those who lost their homes on the Big Island not too long ago due to the volcano had to wait months and months to receive any of the donation money from the Red Cross, to the point where people are being instructed not to donate to them now. I also heard how they had to fight in court to get any kinds of payout from their insurance. I don't know what the truth is, but that's the word of mouth. I wouldn't say the conversation around rebuilding is positive right now. There's a lot of the "Hawaii always comes together, aloha spirit, etc" shyt, but when it comes to details I've heard a lot of doom and gloom. Hawaii in general is already really community oriented though, so there's a lot of people opening up their homes to strangers, bringing food to shelters, volunteering and doing everything they can to help. I know a church raised enough funds to rent a cargo plane and fill it with supplies to deliver in the matter of 24 hours. An Uber driver handed me a bunch of cards yesterday and told me to give them to anyone from Maui, because they're part of a group offering to drive anyone from Lahaina to where ever they need to go for free. I was told there's a line of drivers waiting outside the Convention Center where people are sheltering doing free pick ups and drop offs. It's not like the mainland, empathy is the default here. No one is going to wait for the government to step in.
There is always going to be help for the people, but for property... Not so much.
 

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