Have a hard time seeing the Cavs winning Game 7

[The Frozen One]

what's more realistic? cavs bench showing up or warriors bench showing up?

answering that will tell you who will win game 7.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

one question I would ask you about the outcome OP.
How the fukk do you know?

I already gave my reasons....I was right about how last year's Finals would play out too.

But we're talking about %'s, not certainly. I think there's a 25-30% chance that Lebron and the Cavs pull this off.

I've predicted the same

LeBron is goin to score 30 points. It's what he does in elimination games.

Kyrie's efficiency is what I think will go back down to earth. I still expect him to get to the line and score 25+.

The Cavs bench on the road is a huge problem. Kevin Love's ineffectiveness is also a big deal.

The Warriors role players will play better at home. I also suspect the refs are going to be in their corner more so than Game 6.

I think it's going to be a 115-108 game with GSW winning.

Bron is showing up I do know that. He just needs someone else to step up with him on the road. Last time he was in a hostile environment in a do or die situation he dropped that 45 on Boston so I know he is capable of another herculean performance Sunday. And I think Kyrie will bring it too but in order for them to pull the upset someone like Love or Smith will have to have a big game. Cause Golden State is going to come out hot probably and you want to weather that storm and not let that crowd take you out if it. Which is why Smith and Love will have to hit the open looks they will get early in the game off the doubles that Kyrie and Bron gets.

Just hoping Good JR shows up Bron and Kyrie can't do all the scoring themselves JR gotta knock down a few 3's can't have him go 1-8 and checkout like he's done in past years.

what's more realistic? cavs bench showing up or warriors bench showing up?

answering that will tell you who will win game 7.

Yep yep yep. If we're relying on Love/JR/someone like that on the Cavs to have a big game....you really going to bet on the Cavs?

I'm a Bron Stan but you made a rationale well thought out argument based on facts
And Vegas agrees with you. If Bron can pull this off somehow it might go down as the greatest NBA finals moment in league history. Cavs will be the first team to come back from a 3-1 deficit in the finals and to do that in the arena of the best regular season team ever would be crazy.

Ignore the fakkits claiming they ain't read your argument. Most times that means they did but have no logical rebuttal. Either way choosing wilful ignorance over analysis is

This is one of my biggest defenses. I may have made this post before the line came out (not sure when the lines hit), but no one in the world has gotten rich off the idea that Vegas sets stupid lines for big games. They know what's up as well as I do.

I don't see how a thread like this gets made after the Cavs have just won two straight in convinving fashion.

Because Draymond was out for one game and the other was at home for the Cavs. Those are HUGE factors.

Golden State is 51-4 at home this year, 11-2 in the playoffs (11-1 with Draymond in the game). They're only 4-6 in the playoffs on the road.

And you really think Iggy is going to be hurting and Curry is going to be in foul trouble again? If BOTH those things happen and GS doesn't play any better at home than they did on the road, then yes, the Cavs will win. You gonna bet on all that?

Wow OP sounds like a fukking hater....

man, i seen yall say lebron wasn't winning game 5 and 6, and here we are

i like both stories, so i don't care who wins... can't wait for sunday

Same here. The same people that couldnt see the Cavs winning a single game last week at 0-2, at 1-3 and 2-3 also cant see them winning when its 3-3. They should wake up, its clear that they are blind as fukk. They should rather say that they HOPE that the Cavs wont win game 7 and leave it at that. I cant wait for Sunday night. This is going to be Bron's most impressive ring. I cant wait to see the Nike ad after the win

Jinx thread. OP is one of the biggest LeBron stans on the board.

Watch two straight historic performances then write a thinkpiece about why the Cavs will lose brehs.

That Bron hate got you n1kkas deranged

OP never hates on LeBron

Hmmmm....maybe I'm the same guy who said this series was going to 7 before it even started AND after Game 5?

I love the confusion.

But I don't believe in jinxes.

I've never said anyone was going to lose unless I honestly thought that the chances were they were going to lose.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

But I don't believe in jinxes.

I've never said anyone was going to lose unless I honestly thought that the chances were they were going to lose.

You're hedging heavy my breh. I ain't mad at cha. You're just preparing yourself if he doesn't win.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

If LeBron pulled this off it'd be the type of shyt you will tell your grandkids about

 

[Shadow King]

I'm late to this thread but this game is about the role players. Bron will get his 30-10-7 MINIMUM and Kyrie will show up if that foot isn't serious but I'm not sure I can see the Cavs role players (TT, RJ, Shump, Delly) matching the Warriors role players in Oracle. That crowd is gonna lift them. Bogut and Iggy being injured and hurt is that light at the tunnel's end though.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You're hedging heavy my breh. I ain't mad at cha. You're just preparing yourself if he doesn't win.

There anything in the analysis you disagree with?

 

[Gangstar8]

Lebron should win
Even KD took them to 7

 

[the cool]

Kevin love still needs to be a factor offensively in this series. I know his defense sucks, but Jefferson can't do what love does on offense. They gotta find a way for Love to get buckets besides catch and shoot 3's.

they been trying for 2 years you think its going to magically happen in game 7

 

[Geek Nasty]

Bron didn't look tired AT ALL at the end of that game. He's coming out blazing. Now, the rest of the Cavs...

 

[Makavalli]

Bron didn't look tired AT ALL at the end of that game. He's coming out blazing. Now, the rest of the Cavs...

We dont know bout kyrie's stamina tho. Bron will be on his saiyan shyt but we dont know bout the rest of them roll players. RJ should get co finals mvp tho if cavs win

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Lebron should win
Even KD took them to 7

I love how you try to demean Lebron out of one side of your mouth, and then give him incredible praise without knowing it.

KD is the 2nd best player in the NBA. KD lost to the Warriors by 8 in Game 7. But Lebron is so much greater than the 2nd-best player in the NBA that the Cavs should automatically win that game?

Saying Lebron is worth 10 points more to a team than the 2nd-best player in the league is the kind of ridiculous praise that not even Lebron's stans would go so far as to give him.

(And I know, you can't just compare two players and pretend like it's not a team game....but you love to do that and just did it right here, so I'm only following suit.)




KD won Game 1 on the road, and that was more about the Warriors playing bad than anything else.

After that, KD lost three straight road games against the Warriors by a combined 44 points.

Why does that fact that KD managed to get to game 7 mean that James should win Game 7, when the Warriors are 50-3 at home with Green playing this year?

The ONLY loss at home in the playoffs with Green playing was Game 1 against OKC, and the Warriors aren't putting up another game like that in a Game 7.

 

[Gangstar8]

KD won Game 1 on the road, and that was more about the Warriors playing bad than anything else.

After that, KD lost three straight road games against the Warriors by a combined 44 points.

Why does that fact that KD managed to get to game 7 mean that James should win Game 7, when the Warriors are 50-3 at home with Green playing this year?

The ONLY loss at home in the playoffs with Green playing was Game 1 against OKC, and the Warriors aren't putting up another game like that in a Game 7.

Because Lebron has 5 times the more help KD has

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Because Lebron has 5 times the more help KD has

Ah, so the whole TEAM matters and you can't compare team results out of context just by naming a single player who happened to be on the team.


Good to know.


Does Lebron have "five times the help" because there's a world where Irving-Love-TT-JR-Shump-Jefferson are fives times better than Westbrook-Ibaka-Adams-Roberson-Waiters-Kanter?



The 7-deep that's actually getting playing time for both teams looks even, but if it wasn't for Lebron then I'm taking the team with Westbrook/Ibaka over the team with Irving/Love. And remember, the Cavs picked up Shump AND JR AND a 1st-round pick for giving up Waiters, who still was only a 6th-man for OKC. Unless you have a massive hard-on for the Love-TT big man combo, or you are really impressed with JR/Shump combining to shoot 33% in the Finals, I'm not seeing the "five times the help" very well.

 

[Gangstar8]

Ah, so the whole TEAM matters and you can't compare team results out of context just by naming a single player who happened to be on the team.


Good to know.


Does Lebron have "five times the help" because there's a world where Irving-Love-TT-JR-Shump-Jefferson are fives times better than Westbrook-Ibaka-Adams-Roberson-Waiters-Kanter?



The 7-deep that's actually getting playing time for both teams looks even, but if it wasn't for Lebron then I'm taking the team with Westbrook/Ibaka over the team with Irving/Love. And remember, the Cavs picked up Shump AND JR AND a 1st-round pick for giving up Waiters, who still was only a 6th-man for OKC. Unless you have a massive hard-on for the Love-TT big man combo, or you are really impressed with JR/Shump combining to shoot 33% in the Finals, I'm not seeing the "five times the help" very well.

Even? Except for Westbrook and Adams they all are

That includes Ibaka

Steve Adams = TT
Love >>>>>> Ibaka who is old and already declining

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Even? Except for Westbrook and Adams they all are

That includes Ibaka

Steve Adams = TT
Love >>>>>> Ibaka who is old and already declining

Love?


Mr. "my team won by 30 in the game where I sat my ass on the bench the whole time in Game 3"???

Mr. "I went 1-5 for 2 points, 3 rebounds, and 4 fouls in an NBA Finals elimination game in Game 5"?

Mr. "I just played TWELVE MINUTES in an NBA Finals elimination game in Game 6"?

Love has a total of 9 points and 5 boards in the THREE CAVS WINS COMBINED. He has a negative +/- in their WINS.


And that's the guy you're going to battle with as "Love >>>>>> Ibaka"


Ibaka averaged 12 and 8 with good shooting and good defense in their series against GS...
Other than Game 2, he played better in EVERY game than Love played in ANY game.

Considering that Love hasn't been hitting his shot at all and sucks at defense...what the hell do you think Love adds that Ibaka doesn't?


So now we have:

Westbrook > Irving
Ibaka > Love
Steven Adams = TT
Waiters + Roberson = JR + Shump (let me remind you again that the Cavs got JR + Shump AND a 1st-round pick for Waiters alone)
Kanter=Jefferson


So your entire claim "Lebron has 5 times the more help KD has" is based SOLELY on the fact that you think Love is so much better than Ibaka that he elevates the whole team....and let's just ignore that Westbrook is possibly a top-5 player in the entire NBA right now.

The guy who has scored NINE POINTS COMBINED in the three Cavs wins is the lynchpin of the Cavs' superior supporting cast and more than outweighs the Westbrook advantage by himself.

Damn, you are awful at these arguments.