Has kratos shown the most character growth of a videogame character in the last 14 years?

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isn't the most development because a diametric switch isn't particularly far-moving, but it's objectively the most human - and both are true for the same reason. He didn't develop nuance so much as he did what most humans end up doing:
becoming a staunch advocate against the defining character traits they saw as flaws in their younger selves. It's true of a lot of us as we get older, we become almost counter of our prior selves out of spite for that older version of us.

It'd be more nuanced if he was more about teaching the harnessing and utility of the things he hated about himself instead of instilling in his son a complete rejection of his past ideals. Ragnarok rounded this off a good bit but mainly because of the plot throughline of certain traits 'breeding true'. All the gods show characteristics born of, or in spite of, their parents.

Kratos definitely has the best journey to go on. A lot of growth.
More room for real development in Atreus' story as he works in defiance of Kratos' lessons.

All that said, I don't have a better answer so...

sure. Kratos wins
 

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So he's mad that someone else made his character deep and people loved it. :mjlol:

He's a hater because he doesn't have the juice no more. How you go from making twisted metal and God of War to indie games that nobody plays? What a falloff. shyt id be mad too:picard:


Maybe he can translate that anger into a new character:troll:
I kinda think he has a point. It's hard for me to consider that true character development when the creator never envisioned it for the character. I think it was a better look on Joel. With Joel that was the way he was supposed to be. With Kratos it wasn't part of a plan it is just two random takes on a character from two different people. It wasn't a deliberate character arc it was just a soft reboot.

It's like saying Lara Croft from the newer Tomb Raider series and Lara Croft from the original games are a built upon each other. I don't even really consider them the same character. None of who she is in that new series was planned by the original creators.
 

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also anyone that thinks kratos was only “raaaar im mad and i kill things” didn’t play god of war past part 1 or finish Valhalla cause thats all been addressed. It’s a study in how you correctly rehab a character.

Kratos did good deeds in the original trilogy already, he wasn’t zeus. Him being fleshed out and turned into more of a helpful god isn’t outlandish if you tie his actions in god of war 3 to his actions in Ragnarok.
 

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You might be pissed too if somebody took something you created and made it into something it was never supposed to be. Kratos was supposed to be all that rage and shyt. It was never that deep. It's like what if they turned Mario into a complex layered character? That isn't who he's supposed to be.
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The same Cory Barlog that was director of 2018's game is the same guy who directed GoW2 and started off GOW3.

The character was always deep. The Greek games enhances the Norse games.

But carry on.
Yeah and Keiji Inafune is the father of Mega Man even though he was only an artist on the original game.
 

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Yeah and Keiji Inafune is the father of Mega Man even though he was only an artist on the original game.


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Yes but it also essentially completes his story arc which doesn’t bode well for making sequels.
 

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The original creator of the character of the series said that's not what the character was about. That means something.

It's like if George Lucas says I don't like the direction they took Star Wars in.

I guess because you like the direction things went in you have to defend it but as the creator when he says that's some bullshyt it means something.

A guy that was an artist on the original game and got elevated on sequels got older and became a father and wants to take things in a different direction but he was not an original writer or creator of God of War.

I can lean more to the original game and character as a person that really doesn't like children at all I bounced off the new game about being a dad.
 

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I guess because you like the direction things went in you have to defend it but as the creator when he says that's some bullshyt it means something.

No what you’re saying makes no sense. Whats canon is canon despite what the creator thinks, just like the new Star Wars trilogy. No one likes the direction they took the original cast in but thats what happens when you step away from or sell your project and let others take over.


Jaffe only directed one out of 6 mainline god of war games. His opinion on Kratos story isn’t anymore valid than anyone else that has worked on the franchise for over 20 years.

His opinion on Kratos is almost a useless as Rob Liefields opinion on Deadpool in 2024
 
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