Has anyone here truly gotten down to sub 10% BF without strict dieting and/or drugs

[Adam3000]

things like clen, albuterol, and t3 arent going to solve everything. You still have to diet properly

even still its not terribly difficult. It just takes a certain amount of food planning so that you dont deviate. Id say the best bet is to cook meats in advance and then have single serve vegetable packs. And limit ur carbs to maybe 1-2 meals a day

id also say take a hard look at the vitamins you currently have

multi, fishoil, zinc, magnesium, b-complex would be a good start

I'm half-joking on the clen....I have thought about it but it aint that serious for me. I would do an ECA stack before I ever tried clen and I'm not even sure I'm serious enough even for that. Right now I just do 200 mg caffeine either in pill or coffee...I should probably try to bump that up to 400-600 mg and see if that helps

As far as my diet goes, it already is pretty good it is just not carb-restricted. I work from home so I plan out my meals fairly meticulously, I just don't pay attention to carbs. I did just come up with a plan for the next few weeks though that puts me at 160 g protein and 135 g carbs (almost 40 of those being fiber), so I hope that this new diet plan can help me burn that last few pounds of fat.

 

[Adam3000]

Have you thought about eating at maintenance for a few weeks so restart everything?

Yep, that is my next thought. If this new change to 1800 cals/135 g carbs doesn't work, I am just going to bump up to 2200-2500 for a month or so then drop back down to 2000.

 

[MMS]

ill say this brah, EC stack will definitely help

just cop bronkaid and take one pill with one 200mg pill of caffeine. Dont take in excess of 3 doses a day. And preferably start with 2 doses for like 3 days then bump to 3.

But yes you will need to reconsider how much carbs ur taking in and subsequently bump up ur protein

 

[Spliff]

If I cared to extend my first long ass Leangains cut, then "yes" to the title. Diet was seamless and I was only paying attention to loose guidelines. Then again, "strict" is subjective and some people call a 16/8 IF schedule strict. Never dropped below 100g(rest)/160g(lift) carbs per day. Definitely got to atleast 11% by the end of that cut. Don't know about sub-10%, but UD2 sure did address that concern down the line

If you're not experiencing a lowered sex drive, declining gym performance, wild hunger, or more lethargy than normal (if any) then just lower your calories and reassess in a couple weeks.

Dipping in and out of ketosis isn't a requirement to shred. May actually be detrimental if you go about it incorrectly.

Fat loss slows the leaner you are so its a good idea to calculate deficits with percentages as @The ADD mentions, assuming your maintenance calculations are accurate. We about preserving muscle outchea.

Yes, you're eventually gonna want to include refeeds into your diet even if you never dip below 100g carbs/day. Search it's relation with leptin. I don't see how this would increase the difficulty of a diet. All you're doing eating more carbs on a day(s) you lift.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Carb cycling/refeeds will get you there for sure. That's what I'm gonna do and what a lot of natty folks have done successfully

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

For what it's worth I got down to 9% just off being a tall "skinny" nikka. Now I sit between 11-13% based on my last physical. The only problem is all my fat goes to my lil gut. shyts annoying.

 

[Jesus]

I eat like shyt and hover around 10-12%.

 

[Versa]

What body percentage does @Kasino416 seem to be at?

I just want to get to a % where my abs are fully showing.

 

[Adam3000]

What body percentage does @Kasino416 seem to be at?

I just want to get to a % where my abs are fully showing.

I would guess 7-8%

You should see an ab outline in good lighting at 15% and at 10% start to see decent definition. Abs wont "pop" until sub 8% though

 

[50CentStan]

Clen

 

[ch15x]

I just stick to a basic routine of diet and exercise. I'm far from the shredded look, though...

 

[Adam3000]

I just stick to a basic routine of diet and exercise. I'm far from the shredded look, though...

Hey, you're doing it right. That was my whole thing too...if it is a basic routine it is a lifestyle rather than a chore. I don't want it to be a chore, I want to stay lean for life. My cholesterol was very high 2 years ago, I diligently worked to cut back on fast food for the first year, then this last year diligently worked to lose weight and now my bloodwork is looking


BUT, once I started to see that shadow of my abs a few months ago it sparked something in me to take it to the next level. Wanted a 6 pack by age 30, not quite going to hit my goal but I'm still looking pretty good considering my athletic activity had been virtually zero for 7 years

 

[Versa]

I would guess 7-8%

You should see an ab outline in good lighting at 15% and at 10% start to see decent definition. Abs wont "pop" until sub 8% though

So hold up, I'm not going to see well defined abs unless I'm at 8% body fat? That is discouraging if true. I don't even WANT to be at a body fat percentage THAT low lol.

I thought a relatively strict and balanced diet, lifting, cardio, and watching my calorie intake would get it done. nikkas in here talking about caffeine pills and refeeding carbs and cycle and shyt brehs. I have to do that to get in great shape? Keep it 100.

 

[Adam3000]

So hold up, I'm not going to see well defined abs unless I'm at 8% body fat? That is discouraging if true. I don't even WANT to be at a body fat percentage THAT low lol.

I thought a relatively strict and balanced diet, lifting, cardio, and watching my calorie intake would get it done. nikkas in here talking about caffeine pills and refeeding carbs and cycle and shyt brehs. I have to do that to get in great shape? Keep it 100.

Nah, 8% is 'popping out'...you will still see definition even once you get to 12% depending on the time of day and your hydration levels (and also how much muscle you have obviously)

If you have a lot of muscle, this is fairly accurate based on what I have seen:

 

[MMS]

So hold up, I'm not going to see well defined abs unless I'm at 8% body fat? That is discouraging if true. I don't even WANT to be at a body fat percentage THAT low lol.

I thought a relatively strict and balanced diet, lifting, cardio, and watching my calorie intake would get it done. nikkas in here talking about caffeine pills and refeeding carbs and cycle and shyt brehs. I have to do that to get in great shape? Keep it 100.

10 % is defined as the point when you can see your abs without flexing