Winter Soldier is the best MCU film because it was a legit film focused on Cap and WS. CW was too fcused on too many characters and Cap got very little screen time.
Has any character fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all faster than bucky?
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Winter Soldier is the best MCU film because it was a legit film focused on Cap and WS. CW was too fcused on too many characters and Cap got very little screen time.
Child_Of_God
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He got that work from Black Panther like 3 times in that movie.
I hope they beef up T’Challa in Black Panther 2 because he seemed more weaker in his first solo movie.
Dr. Narcisse
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Remember when that "White Wolf" shyt had everyone
Why does no one ever complain about BP's dropoff in Infinity War and Endgame? Just specifically BP?
It was the John Wick guys that did Winter Soldier and Civil War. Its not the choreographer. Its how the action itself was shot.
With that said how is this not dope
It was hard to see in the theater, but as is now thats a great action scene.
The real complaint should be more hand to hand combat in film.
The actual choreography for the final fight was good, but it was hard to see and they had filmed full CGI fight scenes at the end. T'Challa was using his powers more against The Border Tribe than actually fighting.
THe "regular human" Waterfall Fights are some of the best in the MCU
Days of Future Piff
Superstar
Man I remember watching Cell Saga then wanting to see more and what Gohan became...cartoon network used to air ____ irregularly and fillers which at the time I didn't know what fillers were.
My mom boyfriend took me to the store to pick out some DBZ tapes...breh was rushing me and was like
"Yea I saw that one...they reach SUPER SAIYAN 4"
Me:
* I get home and that ____ was Great Saiyaman :mjzooted:*
I remember being so disappointed when Gohan grew up. Tien’s falloff from the OG Dragonball days is also crazy. Basically everyone not named Goku or Vegeta ended up in the bushes by the end of the Buu Saga.
Hopeofmypeople
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Why does no one ever complain about BP's dropoff in Infinity War and Endgame? Just specifically BP?
It was the John Wick guys that did Winter Soldier and Civil War. Its not the choreographer. Its how the action itself was shot.
With that said how is this not dope
It was hard to see in the theater, but as is now thats a great action scene.
The real complaint should be more hand to hand combat in film.
The actual choreography for the final fight was good, but it was hard to see and they had filmed full CGI fight scenes at the end. T'Challa was using his powers more against The Border Tribe than actually fighting.
THe "regular human" Waterfall Fights are some of the best in the MCU
You are being delusional with the last part of your statement, and of course choreography has a hand in how these fight scenes turn out. In Civil War BP was shown to be an absolute beast who held his own against Cap, Bucky and many others. Come his own film and he is mostly reliant on that Kinetic energy absorbing bullshyt that his suit does. I pray they get rid of that shyt come the sequel, the facts are the fight scene in BP are the weakest part of the movie and considering the character had shown greater feats in Civil War there was no need for it to be that way.
NobodyReally
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He got that work from Black Panther like 3 times in that movie.
Bucky has a knock serum and a metal arm - no real super powers, and he went toe to toe with T'Challa and survived. Him losing and living gives him G-status.
Hopeofmypeople
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He is enhanced just like T’Challa and Cap, remember in Civil War does frozen enhanced Soldiers were shot up with what Bucky was. And in truth Bucky only survived against T’Challa because Cap saved him, he was as good as dead multiple times.
NobodyReally
Superstar
I disagree. When Bucky was given the serum (at Azzano in The First Avenger), the Nazis/Hydra only had a knock-off version of Steve's serum. They were experimenting on him when Steve found him on the table but they didn't even know if it would take. Steve chased down the only person with the version of the serum he recieved and he killed himself. I mean if we're going off of MCU lore. Another argument that he didn't have Steve's level of serum is that the metal arm wouldn't have taken at all. Bucky would have just healed and pushed that thing out. So yeah, he's enhanced but not on the level of Cap or T'Challa, yet he went toe to toe with both of them.
Dr. Narcisse
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The Waterfall fights? That shyt felt more real that anything outside of Winter Soldier.
Also you're agreeing with what I'm saying. He really didn't fight "as BP" outside of that the vid I posted and at the end vs. Killmonger. For the most part he was using his powers.
If you really watch the final Killmonger/BP fight...what they are doing is good. Its just awfully filmed. CGI characters in a dark setting and you lose the weight the earlier fight had.
I'm ok with using the kinetic energy stuff as little as possible.
If the kinetic energy/CGI landed better it would have worked though. The concept was good just not the execution.
+1 for BP seemed more powerful/skilled in civil war vs. his solo joint
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Hopeofmypeople
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I agree with you that his serum isn’t as potent as Cap’s, none the less he is an enhanced human being and can perform at a high rate than an average man hence he is no less super powered than BP and Cap which was my point. If Bucky serum made him an 8 on the enhanced spectrum and Cap and T’Challa are 10’s despite him being lesser he is still enhanced so as Super powered as they might be considered.
Hopeofmypeople
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Real?
This is a superhero movie about enhanced and super powered beings breh no one is looking for real in this movies. People just want to be entertained and watch action packed fights with human defying feats.I don’t really class that Kinetic absorption thing as his powers, it is just a capability of his suit a very annoying one that limits the scope of action and one that has written them into a corner. Also the final fight sucked yes in part to how it was filmed and also because Tod choreography and terrible CGI. Coogler needs to hit the Russo bros up on some yo I am going to need to borrow your guys from Winter soldier and Civil War. Also moot point but the suit in Civil War was much better, it made him look bigger and more imposing as opposed to the later suit.