Haitian BBW claims parents are "slave owners"

[xoxodede]

I think this is common in many countries.

I learned about this from a documentary about Black Americans going to Ghana. And the Black Americans felt really bad about the servants in the house - and felt like they (Ghanaians) were enslaving them.

I don't know if this is similar - but it's having servants living with them.



I think it was @Gold who explained more about it.

 

[get these nets]

It's definitely not regulated, I can agree on that.

Social programs and agencies don't exist in developing countries, or they don't to the extent that they do in Western countries.
Poverty is real in developing countries, in ways that it isn't in developed countries.
In each country, there have developed defacto ways to address Poverty. Restavec is one of the adaptations from Haitian society.
Like I said, the child or his/her original family do not have better options.

 

[xoxodede]

She ALSO said the US slavery system was 100% based on race; white people in the comments were trying to "Irish were slaves, too" (CAP) for their own intentions.
Humans didn't stay on that same brand of fukkery across the board

@Get These Nets Are there any organizations that directly help Haitians who are considering sending their children away?

I would do a monthly Patreon for them - before I do any YouTubers or "Content creator."

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Those both sound and look great, and I'm familiar with his work.
This work predates his and this history predates American social construction.
The year 1332 was mentioned.

There was no 'White race' prior to the 17th Century. The 14th Century usage of 'White' is referring to a 'class'. Also, most people anachronistically apply racial ccategories to ancient peoples/cultures before they were even invented. This gives rise to such nonsense claims as 'Black people sold other Black people into slavery.' when 'Black' people didn't even exist, as a 'race' until the 17th Century.......

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Dessalines rolling in his grave

 

[audemarzz]

There was no 'White race' prior to the 17th Century. The 14th Century usage of 'White' is referring to a 'class'. Also, most people anachronistically apply racial ccategories to ancient peoples/cultures before they were even invented. This gives rise to such nonsense claims as 'Black people sold other Black people into slavery.' when 'Black' people didn't even exist, as a 'race' until the 17th Century.......

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No, it wasn't referring to a modern socioeconomic "class" at all (outside of a racialized "class" of DARK SKINNED people), you didn't read what I posted
Muslims Were Banned From the Americas as Early as the 16th Century | History | Smithsonian Magazine

It was definitely COLOR based

 

[Loose]

Change the name of this thread its not funny

 

[get these nets]

@Get These Nets Are there any organizations that directly help Haitians who are considering sending their children away?

I would do a monthly Patreon for them - before I do any YouTubers or "Content creator."

Thanks.
Govt. leaves people to fend for themselves pretty much, so any efforts to develop the economy or provide financial assistance are done by Haitian diaspora funded groups, white missionary groups, the Catholic church, or Black organizations in America/Canada.
Providing jobs would put families in better position to be able to feed their children.

There are orphanages in Haiti that accept children who can no longer be cared for by parents.

 

[ThatTruth777]

I remember this being discussed on here. You had some argue it was favorable while others didn't. Irregardless of that I don't like how she attempts to absolve the enslavement issue as just a class issue.

 

[audemarzz]

Change the name of this thread its not funny

1.That's what she is.
2.That's what she said.
3.NO.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

No, it wasn't referring to a class at all, you didn't read what I posted
Muslims Were Banned From the Americas as Early as the 16th Century | History | Smithsonian Magazine

And you didn't listen to what Dr. Painter said as she SPECIFICALLY stated that religion was how people 'classified' themselves before the term 'race', as we know it today, was created.

All I did was read the title which agreed with her. That's an issue with earlier scholarship, it gets superceded by later scholarship and makes it outdated.​

 

[audemarzz]

And you didn't listen to what Dr. Painter said as she SPECIFICALLY stated that religion was how people 'classified' themselves before the term 'race', as we know it today, was created.

All I did was read the title which agreed with her. That's an issue with earlier scholarship, it gets superceded by later scholarship and makes it outdated.​

THE DARKER SKINNED SLAVES.
Nothing was superseded at all, you're trying to wedge a non point into established fact.
"well, according to this modern study about modern arrangements, the modern version of peoples' who didn't exist in 1332, were called white later on"
NO.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

THE DARKER SKINNED SLAVES.

Southern Europeans were/are darker than Northern Europeans while Northern Africans are lighter than their Southern neighbors so that statement is a reach. It is also applying a 20th Century concept to Middle Age people that didn't even exist. Thus, that scholarship has been superceded.​

 

[audemarzz]

Southern Europeans were/are darker than Northern Europeans while Northern Africans are lighter than their Southern neighbors so that statement is a reach. It is also applying a 20th Century concept to Middle Age people that didn't even exist. Thus, that scholarship has been superceded.​

They were directly referring to black people, not southern europeans.
It wasn't "superseded" at all, and you keep misspelling the word "superseded"

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

They were directly referring to black people, not southern europeans.

There were no 'Black' people until the 17th Century. Africans identified themselves by tribe/religion until then and Northern Europeans referred to Southern Europeans as 'Black' before the Moors conquered.

Calling Middle Age Africans 'Black' is anachronistic, disingenuous, and racist.​