Gunman in New Zealand opens fire inside mosque, video inside *NSFL*

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Look, if you support Open Borders and Unrestricted Migration just say it, you don't have to project faux anger, because I'm explaining the facts.

If that's what you like cool.
I have thread on it, and my feelings are mixed. Truth Behind Immigration Debate: Trump's Wall vs Clinton's Open Border Western Hemisphere

There is no perception as Napoleon is trying to insinuate.

It is outright happening or being actively pushed.

However, I would disagree that you can't stop migration.....ask Israel, China, North Korea, and many other countries about that.

Look, I don't care about the policies of those two. The history of humanity is one of migration and immigration. And the countries you mentioned, which are ran by dictators, or dictate the lives of all citizens through strict unethical economical and social practices, or simply false states propped up by the West are poor examples of stopping immigration.
 

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I'm responding to Napoleon saying this is "perception".

Is there a "perception" of unrestricted migration?
I put Nap on ignore three years ago, but yes, it is obviously only "perception" that there is unrestricted migration.

In reality migration is heavily restricted. There are millions of people who would want to migrate but can't, and you often have to take great risks or deal with a lot of LE if you try to migrate. Saying that there is unrestricted migration because a lot of people migrate anyway is like saying that our highways are completely unregulated because a lot of people break traffic laws. Yes, it is possible to break the laws, but there are clearly many laws in place, many laws being enforced, and a lot of people getting stopped, penalized, or deterred for breaking laws.



Do we not have Americans desiring Open Borders?
Yes, but it is a minority, and I don't see it becoming a majority in my lifetime. Certainly not policy.



This is not a White Supremacist talking points because Boyce Watkins, Claude Anderson, and Tariq Nasheed have all stated that immigration is not good for Black Americans...so unless you also saying they are echoing white supremacist talking points, you may want to evaluate what I'm saying.
What I said was that you're trying to rationalize their paranoia. But you're right that because I have Nap on ignore, I may not have seen all the context.

Still, in a hot conversation about a White Supremacist gunning down dozens of people, you might want to rethink what battles you want to be fighting right here. You will have plenty of other opportunities to argue with Nap.
 

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His manisfesto talks about declining birth rates in white countries. His manifesto is predicated upon white preservation. This is what white extremism is; the false notion that the white race is "under attack". I can bet you there are many right wing factions in America that will even sympathize with the shooter. Just go to Breitbart and see some of the comments.

Then you have a President that makes inciteful comments about military and police having his back if it came down to violence. Wake up breh and see what's going on. This dude is just another Dylan Roof. Only difference is that he targeted the prevalent "minority" community in the area. And this ain't about being scared...it's about brehs needing to be vigilant and arm up, and not thinking it's just simply another person's (or groups) problem.

You didn’t negate my point though. The man said he had a beef w this community specifically - he’s a white nationalist so he hates minorities, gays, Jews all the same we know this.

But his ACTIONS carried out today are what the discussion is about - and these are two specific groups that are at odds with each other.

This is what Tariq was talking about in one of his shows last year - not all fights are ours, if he had DONE something to ADOS then yes, retaliate but if not...
 

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40 people. Feel like this gotta be pause on Facebook Live since shyt was livestreamed there. And dude said edgy memes got him. Feel like we're about to see a crack down on content on the big sites. They about to do some TSA and Patriot Act shyt on the internet :whoo:

As soon as live streaming became a thing I felt this would be an issue, and streaming porn of course
 

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By sayn people dont have to watch this shyt? But watched breh in dallas shoot shyt up on the news? Dont press play

U fukkn faq
Naw that ain't what you posted fruitcake. You posted something about people condemning this but praising Micah Johnson in Dallas. Lying ass bytch.
 

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Naw that ain't what you posted fruitcake. You posted something about people condemning this but praising Micah Johnson in Dallas. Lying ass bytch.

I just said people watched that vid but said this one is gory....people got shot in both vids..u been watchn too many tariq vids clown
 

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@Barnett114 you guys need to deal with that newworldafro troll. He’s really going off today on some major :mjpls: bs.

Thread in HL about infowars allowing leaders of Nazi groups in Europe on their show, and he comes through “just free speech, nbd, open dialogues are important :mjgrin:

And in this thread it’s “listen, I know murder is wrong, but there are an awful lot of immigrants :mjgrin:

Get this fukking piece of shyt out of here, he contributes nothing :camby:
 

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Your gonna get chastised for this but it raises some thinking around this thread being much longer than the recent kenya attack. Something to note.

A. There was first-person video, which is what a lot of people are commenting on

B. The attack was motivated by racism and White Supremacy, which is something a lot of people here care about

C. Most people posting here live in places that are more like New Zealand than Kenya


All that being said, you're right that people are often oblivious to how they follow the lead of the mainstream media and pay attention to their "big events" rather than deciding for themselves what is important. Damn near everything out of Africa is way underreported, and everything sensational in the West is overcovered.
 

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Let's be clear, shooter is a fukkboi, and hopefully he is caught and punished properly.

However, let's talk strictly facts.

In Europe, there is essentially unrestricted migration. You can see hundreds of folks hanging off boats any day of the week in the Meditteranean. Most EU countries accept them in, and countries that don't are basically screamed on by Brussels. When Hungary started building a fence around it's borders against Syrian refugees the EU loudly condemned it

Some Democrats and Liberals in U.S. want Open Borders....what do you think that term means. It means unrestricted migration, especially from Latin America.

These are facts.

The solution of murder is not the right one though but let's not play word games about what is actually happening, when everybody and their momma knows this is happening in Meditteranean and knows that we have protests with folks screaming for Open Borders in the U.S.

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It's sad that so many Africans have to run across the Sahara, then across the Mediteranean to get a decent quality of life. African countries have to improve conditions.

I have a thread on this Truth Behind Immigration Debate: Trump's Wall vs Clinton's Open Border Western Hemisphere

:camby:

whites don't need a reason to do this ghoul shyt that they do
 

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This is what happens when you allow these so called anti Islam (white sipremesicist) run loose. Their videos never get flagged, they are invited on panels and on tv to call for the genocide of a whole people.
 

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I put Nap on ignore three years ago, but yes, it is obviously only "perception" that there is unrestricted migration.

In reality migration is heavily restricted. There are millions of people who would want to migrate but can't, and you often have to take great risks or deal with a lot of LE if you try to migrate. Saying that there is unrestricted migration because a lot of people migrate anyway is like saying that our highways are completely unregulated because a lot of people break traffic laws. Yes, it is possible to break the laws, but there are clearly many laws in place, many laws being enforced, and a lot of people getting stopped, penalized, or deterred for breaking laws.




Yes, but it is a minority, and I don't see it becoming a majority in my lifetime. Certainly not policy.




What I said was that you're trying to rationalize their paranoia. But you're right that because I have Nap on ignore, I may not have seen all the context.

Still, in a hot conversation about a White Supremacist gunning down dozens of people, you might want to rethink what battles you want to be fighting right here. You will have plenty of other opportunities to argue with Nap.

No this what debate is about.
I'm not arguing for white supremacy or fukkboi shooter, I'm talking about the immigration is real.
:camby:

whites don't need a reason to do this ghoul shyt that they do

I'm not offering an excuse for fukkboi activity. I'm responding to Napoleon saying there is a perception of unrestricted migration. There is no perception. It is either actually happening or being outwardly promoted.
 
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