Guilty: 1st degree Murder, Sentenced to Life :Aaron Hernandez

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I'm not tellin her how to feel, I'm criticizing her feelings. See the difference? :stopitslime:

She can go the rest of her life feeling the way she's chosen to feel, or the way you want her to feel.

But why on God's green Earth would she want the rest of her life to be WORSE? She's found peace...and you're telling her that she'd be better off bitter and angry? :why:



Basically. But unfortunately only black people publicly forgive the killers of their family (especially if they are non black)

WTH does that idea come from? The White pope went straight to the jail to forgive his shooter. Those Amish parents whose girls were killed by that crazed outsider forgave him and helped out his family immediately. Mary Jo Buttafuoco forgave Amy Fisher, Gandhi forgave anyone who harmed him, etc. Malcolm Gladwell maks a big deal about how Wilma Derksen and her husband were able to forgive their daughter's killer, and how much better it worked out for them. (As opposed to the other dude he talks about whose still completely obsessed about his daughter's incarcerated murderer decades later and doesn't care that he keeps messing up other people's lives in the process.) Amish, Mennoites, lots of pure White-bred Christians and pure Black Christian folk both are all about that forgiveness stuff.

Didn't take a minute to find this list on the internet - pretty sure these people are all races.
 
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She can go the rest of her life feeling the way she's chosen to feel, or the way you want her to feel.

But why on God's green Earth would she want the rest of her life to be WORSE? She's found peace...and you're telling her that she'd be better off bitter and angry? :why:





WTH does that idea come from? The White pope went straight to the jail to forgive his shooter. Those Amish parents whose girls were killed by that crazed outsider forgave him and helped out his family immediately. Mary Jo Buttafuoco forgave Amy Fisher, Gandhi forgave anyone who harmed him, etc. Malcolm Gladwell maks a big deal about how Wilma Derksen and her husband were able to forgive their daughter's killer, and how much better it worked out for them, in David and Goliath. (As opposed to the other dude he talks about whose still completely obsessed about his daughter's incarcerated murderer decades later and doesn't care that he keeps messing up other people's lives in the process.)

Didn't take a minute to find this list on the internet - pretty sure these people are all races.

You typed a bunch of unrelated bullshyt :mjlol:

I'm still waiting for someone to post a video of a white person publicly forgiving a black person that killed their family member
 

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You typed a bunch of unrelated bullshyt :mjlol:

I'm still waiting for someone to post a video of a white person publicly forgiving a black person that killed their family member

What's up with your weird criteria that it has to be a White person and a Black killer? Most people are killed by someone as the same race as themself, so most of the examples are White people forgiving White killers, Black people forgiving Black killers, Arabs forgiving Arab killers, Jesus forgiving Jews, Latinos forgiving Latinos, etc. This case was an exception, but it's not like Hernandez is White anyway.

Anyway, random-ass request, but here's one:

Here's another one, and it was huge because the mom whose son was killed is trying to keep the killer off of death row when she forgives him:

Here's another for good measure. Just take the L and move on.
 

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As far as timelines, and motives……heres my thoughts, either it was a few day slow burn of mistrust and paranoia, and confession from a drunken Aaron Hernandez, basically he confessed in some way to the double murder, and showed him his spot, then then catalyst was he saw Lloyd that Saturday night in the club, talking to some Cape Verdeans, and put it all together that he had trusted the wrong person…Odin Lloyd did not sound like a gangster, and it was a mistake to tell anybody you committed a double homicide, esp. if you have millions and a NFL career at stake.

The alternative theory is even more arbitrary and disconcertingly trivial….As of Saturday morning, that 10:35 AM text, he and Lloyd were cool, maybe he didn't want to show him the flophouse, but no big deal, 'take the rental O, it's all good', then he sees him, out that same night, either they loosely planned to link up, or it just worked out that way….sees dude in Venue (?) with some Cape Verdeans, and just decides he has to go. He planned that shyt at least starting Sunday evening, and probably from the moments after he saw them in the club together.

Either way, those are my versions of why it went down, difficult for the general public, and to an extent myself to make sense of….but if you know, or lived that life, drugs, guns, and paranoia, you KNOW how hectic that shyt gets, but thats why you don't lose it to the drugs and paranoia like Hernandez did…So many people I talk to, just have no clue as to why he did, and even given all the details wouldn't really grasp it….

Very fascinating, I'm still eager to hear any new details.
 

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Lloyd died because he was seen talking to some Cape Verdean looking dudes at Rumor. Hernandez thought Lloyd was trying to set him up.

It's not clear if Lloyd knew about Hernandez killing the two Cape Verdean dudes. But whatever Hernandez saw was enough for him to go outside and grab the burner from his car that night. The car was parked at The W valet. It's literally around the corner from Rumor (I've been to Rumor and that W so many times...).

Hernandez was so paranoid that he was literally ready to get into a shootout in front of Rumor if he had to. That's what PCP will do to you. But of course that didn't happen. And he ended up killing Lloyd the next night.

A bouncer at Rumor is the one who called police and let them know that the double murder and Lloyd's murder was connected. So that's where the belief comes from that Lloyd knew about the double murder, Hernandez saw him talking to CV dudes, and killed him because of it.

Plus Hernandez showed Lloyd the flop house and regretted it right after. There was no extortion involved. If he was trying to extort Hernandez do you think that nikka would have been dumb enough to get into that car that night?

Lloyd was from a part of Boston where nikkas don't slip like that. Rumor is that Hernandez kept talking about loyalty and trust on the ride to the industrial park. And that's what triggered Lloyd to text his sister.

damn man, nikka hernandez was crazy. Why the fukk he doing PCP/Dust Juice/ Angel Dust w/e the fukk that is. So dis nikka got lloyd murked for nothing.

How many nikkaz did he murdered?

The two latin dudes at the club in the drive by? and now you saying he also murked 2 cape verdean dudes? WTF? then he shot some nikka in the eye, and we dont know why.

that dust juice really fukked him up, he shoulda just smoked weed and stayed at home creampie'ng his fine black wife, partying with snoop dogg. he had it made. Dis nikka was crazy, now he off dust juice and he gotta deal with what he did.

Aaron WTF man. WHAT THE fukk? all you had to do was stay home and creampie ya wife that night and you woulda been good.
 

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damn man, nikka hernandez was crazy. Why the fukk he doing PCP/Dust Juice/ Angel Dust w/e the fukk that is. So dis nikka got lloyd murked for nothing.

How many nikkaz did he murdered?

The two latin dudes at the club in the drive by? and now you saying he also murked 2 cape verdean dudes? WTF? then he shot some nikka in the eye, and we dont know why.

that dust juice really fukked him up, he shoulda just smoked weed and stayed at home creampie'ng his fine black wife, partying with snoop dogg. he had it made. Dis nikka was crazy, now he off dust juice and he gotta deal with what he did.

Aaron WTF man. WHAT THE fukk? all you had to do was stay home and creampie ya wife that night and you woulda been good.

The two latin dudes and the cape verdeans are one in the same. CV dudes look latin so some peopel might be identifying them that way.

This is a good read from RollingStone. Goes into the PCP and shooting his boy in the eye
http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/the-gangster-in-the-huddle
 
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But remember. Aaron wasn't cool with Lloyd like that until right before he killed him. And he didn't tell him about his flop house until right before he killed him.

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He immediately regretted telling Lloyd about the flop house.

And who knows what else he regretted showing/telling him.

Well shyt, it aint Lloyd fault dis nikka told him his business. Thats on you, fukk nikka. But we dealing with a crazy person.

So yo, out of conversation. How would you have handled it so we woulda got a better outcome?

Your Aaron Hernandez, you told Lloyd about ya flophouse or w/e. U wake up buggin and on ya way home lol. How would you have handled that odin lloyd situation or how do you think it shoulda been handled on lloyd's part.

we dont know lloyd but from what we hear, nikka was a blunt master, played football, worked in construction or some shyt, creampie'ing aarons sister in law, livin it up with hernandez blunt masterin' in the club trynna chill, wasn't really bout that bullshyt. COOL NIKKA in my opinion.
 
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As far as timelines, and motives……heres my thoughts, either it was a few day slow burn of mistrust and paranoia, and confession from a drunken Aaron Hernandez, basically he confessed in some way to the double murder, and showed him his spot, then then catalyst was he saw Lloyd that Saturday night in the club, talking to some Cape Verdeans, and put it all together that he had trusted the wrong person…Odin Lloyd did not sound like a gangster, and it was a mistake to tell anybody you committed a double homicide, esp. if you have millions and a NFL career at stake.

The alternative theory is even more arbitrary and disconcertingly trivial….As of Saturday morning, that 10:35 AM text, he and Lloyd were cool, maybe he didn't want to show him the flophouse, but no big deal, 'take the rental O, it's all good', then he sees him, out that same night, either they loosely planned to link up, or it just worked out that way….sees dude in Venue (?) with some Cape Verdeans, and just decides he has to go. He planned that shyt at least starting Sunday evening, and probably from the moments after he saw them in the club together.

Either way, those are my versions of why it went down, difficult for the general public, and to an extent myself to make sense of….but if you know, or lived that life, drugs, guns, and paranoia, you KNOW how hectic that shyt gets, but thats why you don't lose it to the drugs and paranoia like Hernandez did…So many people I talk to, just have no clue as to why he did, and even given all the details wouldn't really grasp it….

Very fascinating, I'm still eager to hear any new details.

great post man.

idk about that life. drugs, guns, and paranoia. I only smoke weed. get head, and watch ggn news. thats all im trynna do after a hard week ya dig. fukk that life, who the fukk wanna live like that man. especially when you signed a $40 Mill contract and playing for the patriots, when you coulda been fukked up and never made it.

nikka hernandez better write a fukkin book 10 years from now, i'll cop it.

if you was hernandez, how would you have handled it after you told lloyd about flophouses and murders? still dont know why the fukk he did it, and he said i fukked up again, meaning dis nikka was fukkin up constantly. STOP fukkIN UP nikka. YOU KEEP fukkIN UP nikka.
 
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