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I've been wondering how to get people to seriously consider leaving their favorite white, CAC, Hispanic etc spots in favor of Black spots. I know a general complaint about black owned businesses are that they aren't up to par with white owned establishments(:francis:). But, I don't believe that is the real reason.

There must be a lack of respect for things we create independently from white folks (:mjpls:). I've been thinking about this a lot for the past couple months as I prepare to launch my first business.

I wanna know how we could work together to spread the ideas of group economics. I think there is a disconnect to the benefits of supporting black owned businesses.

We gotta circulate our dollars and have proof of concept that black folks can win in business just as much as anyone else.

What do you guys think could be a way to convey the need to circulate black dollars that people can easily digest and take part off and not be turned off by the idea?:patrice:
 

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Have to find a way to connect our natural swagger with our marketing and advertisement. We can make anything else hot, but it seems like with alot of black businesses they're very vanilla. I know the budget isn't very high for designers and everything, but we have alot of great artists and trendy people.

Ultimately we just have to make black cool
 

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Have to find a way to connect our natural swagger with our marketing and advertisement. We can make anything else hot, but it seems like with alot of black businesses they're very vanilla. I know the budget isn't very high for designers and everything, but we have alot of great artists and trendy people.

Ultimately we just have to make black cool

True I'm working on a short film going through the process of urban gardening. Something we need more of and I was thinking in my head how dope I can make this from my point if view.
 

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lack of respect for things we create independently from white folks

what you mentioned is true, very much blacks are wary of our own abilities to do something correctly. I haven't eaten at the asian takeout in years...just generally bad customer service, unhygienic conditions, and what you're talking about with group economics. All of my doctors, contractors , mechanics are black , pretty much every service you can think of where I can control this decision. As far as conveying it I think just making your circle aware of the benefit and then they can bring the idea back to their friends and family and eventually the thought process just expands.
 
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One problem is that if you don't live in a majority Black area, it can be hard to find Black businesses that are convenient to you. I don't think that Black people don't want to support Black businesses, but when buying from a white owned business is much more convenient, it can be hard to convince people to go out of their way to research and then support the Black owned businesses in their area. I don't know an easy solution to this, because the best solution is for people to do the work themselves, and that obviously isn't happening on a large enough scale, at least right now.
 

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I feel like this is something that needs to be advocated towards adolescents and young black adults , because the heads thats 35+ with that warped mentality is already permanently stuck in their ways of treating their own peoples business as inferior and not contributing at all but putting revenue in asians and white peoples pocket with no hesitation . I feel like this generation could be the first to start a renaissance of black business which would inspire the younger people into doing the same when they get older making it permanent in generations after if we play our cards right because we've seen the errors of previous generations so I feel like we could achieve this & I'm looking forward to exchange business ideas with you guys in the future as well .
 

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I feel like this is something that needs to be advocated towards adolescents and young black adults , because the heads thats 35+ with that warped mentality is already permanently stuck in their ways of treating their own peoples business as inferior and not contributing at all but putting revenue in asians and white peoples pocket with no hesitation . I feel like this generation could be the first to start a renaissance of black business which would inspire the younger people into doing the same when they get older making it permanent in generations after if we play our cards right because we've seen the errors of previous generations so I feel like we could achieve this & I'm looking forward to exchange business ideas with you guys in the future as well .
Good post, especially the bit about some of our black folks in their 30s being stuck in their ways. My brother is 30+ and almost completely brainwashed towards how he spends his money. He thinks the Asian dudes at the Donut Shop are his friends just because they smile and talk while taking his money for cookies and cigarettes. shyts on black people constantly 'aw he ain't got money like that' or will try to tell me that gentrification is a good thing. That kinda shyt. His roommate and his friends are the same way, it's disheartening to watch.

Not trying to talk bad about my blood but it illustrates the point you raised.

I feel like if there is going to be any sort of black business renaissance, we will need to disseminate it and exchange information about it on the internet. Television is a slow and outdated form of media, and unfortunately a lot of black people don't realize this and take what they see on TV for face value. If we're gonna try to go the CNN route and speak through the filter of dinosaurs who don't want us to have it, it's a waste of time.
 

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Ok do we have any information about this stuff one way or the other? You'll have to forgive me for being Debbie Downer but unless we know exactly what we're working with, conjecture and speculating as to why businesses aren't supported is worthless.

I'm sure we have some MBAs around that can shed some light as to what our demographic groups value the most. So skipping all that self hate/uncle Tom/other philosophical shyt, what do average black consumers look for? Convenience? Value? Selection? Service? Location? And why don't black businesses meet those needs?

The high minded conversation on if light skinned black consumers subconsciously resent darker shopkeeps must be interesting (as we have 9 of them a week) but if we're looking at a pragmatic, rubber meets the road discussion, we're gonna need some info.
 

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Ok do we have any information about this stuff one way or the other? You'll have to forgive me for being Debbie Downer but unless we know exactly what we're working with, conjecture and speculating as to why businesses aren't supported is worthless.

I'm sure we have some MBAs around that can shed some light as to what our demographic groups value the most. So skipping all that self hate/uncle Tom/other philosophical shyt, what do average black consumers look for? Convenience? Value? Selection? Service? Location? And why don't black businesses meet those needs?

The high minded conversation on if light skinned black consumers subconsciously resent darker shopkeeps must be interesting (as we have 9 of them a week) but if we're looking at a pragmatic, rubber meets the road discussion, we're gonna need some info.
The info is in the numbers. Numbers don't lie. We aren't supporting our business. In a historical context we see that white supremacy policy is the culprit and now we gotta find out how to reverse this.
 

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It starts with trust. We have to educate those under us or coming up to trust our fellow man. Trust is built through transaparency and communication. Blacks who want to establish businesses in their own community should either be a part of that community or make an extreme effort to introduce themselves and build a bridge of trust with those that they intend to serve.
 

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Like a person before me said.

We first must get our own to not only want to live in black areas but invest in it as well.

You need something you drive to the nearest store no matter how far it is instead of looking for someone willing to make one.

That is a problem.
 
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The info is in the numbers. Numbers don't lie. We aren't supporting our business. In a historical context we see that white supremacy policy is the culprit and now we gotta find out how to reverse this.

Link?
 
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