GOT S6ep5 spoiler thread. YES SPOILERS.

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sansa looking like she wants to be queen of the north and knows how to play the game. She should have killed Littlefinger though no reason to keep him alive anymore
 

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When Sansa was talking about what she still felt in her, was she talking about being pregnant or did he make her fukk his dogs? :scust:


@MMSex Where is our Young Dro smiley at???


I think he carved her up a little. Lot of anal with no lube. Stuff like that, but you never with Ramsey. I wouldn't be surprised if the dogs got some, shyt drug dealers make square girls do that shyt all the time.
 

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This is an explanation I just read somewhere else about how Bran affected Hodor in the past. I guess it kind of makes sense.

The way I understood that scene is that while Bran is at Winterfell, he can still hear Meera as he is kind of the bridge between the past and the present. When BloodRaven tells him to warg into Wylis, he does. Young Wylis in proxy, can hear Meera since Bran warged into him. As Meera is telling Hodor to hold the door in the present, that is what Wylis hears from the present and says in the past. That is how hold the door became Hodor. If Bran did not warg into Wylis in the past, he would have never became Hodor and it would have ruined the timeline. I’m sorry if my explanation isn’t great
 

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Only one or 2 wolves left. If bran cant go back in time anf change shyt then hes pretty much useless to me :francis:
 

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This is an explanation I just read somewhere else about how Bran affected Hodor in the past. I guess it kind of makes sense.

The way I understood that scene is that while Bran is at Winterfell, he can still hear Meera as he is kind of the bridge between the past and the present. When BloodRaven tells him to warg into Wylis, he does. Young Wylis in proxy, can hear Meera since Bran warged into him. As Meera is telling Hodor to hold the door in the present, that is what Wylis hears from the present and says in the past. That is how hold the door became Hodor. If Bran did not warg into Wylis in the past, he would have never became Hodor and it would have ruined the timeline. I’m sorry if my explanation isn’t great
Still doesn't explain how he was already fukked up in the present before Bran had warged into him in the past. We saw him in the past perfectly fine a few episodes ago, so he should've been fine in the future.

Had he been fukked up in the past, then Hodor would have already been dead in the present. shyt is retarded
 

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Still doesn't explain how he was already fukked up in the present before Bran had warged into him in the past. We saw him in the past perfectly fine a few episodes ago, so he should've been fine in the future.

Had he been fukked up in the past, then Hodor would have already been dead in the present. shyt is retarded

I'm not sure what you aren't getting? This is a classic time loop setup, done before in tons of stories. Here is a reddit post to explain it.

People seem to be confused about a few things. I hope my understanding of what went down helps clarify it. I could be wrong, so take it as you will.


Wylis Becomes Hodor:


In a moment of panic and confusion and hearing voices outside of his warging, Bran wargs into the wrong Hodor. Not the present Hodor, but the Hodor in his vision, Wylis. His warging connects the present Hodor with the past Wylis to get him out of the cave.


When the present Hodor dies, the past Wylis sees his own death - without understanding or control - and all he remembers are the final words Meera screams to him. Imagine the damage done if you watch and feel your own death. That is how Wylis became Hodor.


Bran changes ASOIAF


Bran does not change the story as we know it, because what has happened has already happened. Anything that Bran has already done has already happened. It is a closed loop. So the story remains the same.


Implications


The story as we it know it now maybe entirely the result of a single Stark attempting to alter the past, which is our present story and cannot be changed.


This could mean:


Bran the builder may have been our Bran. Bloodraven may have been older Bran. R could have kidnapped L because Bran knew that Jon was needed as Azor Ahai.


In other words, while the story as we know it cannot be changed, how it came about is really incredible. Every prophecy, every religion, everything that has happened could be the doing of a single individual. My mind is blown.
 

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Still doesn't explain how he was already fukked up in the present before Bran had warged into him in the past. We saw him in the past perfectly fine a few episodes ago, so he should've been fine in the future.

Had he been fukked up in the past, then Hodor would have already been dead in the present. shyt is retarded


He wasn't "fukked up" until the warning which you just saw
 

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I'm not sure what you aren't getting? This is a classic time loop setup, done before in tons of stories. Here is a reddit post to explain it.

People seem to be confused about a few things. I hope my understanding of what went down helps clarify it. I could be wrong, so take it as you will.


Wylis Becomes Hodor:


In a moment of panic and confusion and hearing voices outside of his warging, Bran wargs into the wrong Hodor. Not the present Hodor, but the Hodor in his vision, Wylis. His warging connects the present Hodor with the past Wylis to get him out of the cave.


When the present Hodor dies, the past Wylis sees his own death - without understanding or control - and all he remembers are the final words Meera screams to him. Imagine the damage done if you watch and feel your own death. That is how Wylis became Hodor.


Bran changes ASOIAF


Bran does not change the story as we know it, because what has happened has already happened. Anything that Bran has already done has already happened. It is a closed loop. So the story remains the same.


Implications


The story as we it know it now maybe entirely the result of a single Stark attempting to alter the past, which is our present story and cannot be changed.


This could mean:


Bran the builder may have been our Bran. Bloodraven may have been older Bran. R could have kidnapped L because Bran knew that Jon was needed as Azor Ahai.


In other words, while the story as we know it cannot be changed, how it came about is really incredible. Every prophecy, every religion, everything that has happened could be the doing of a single individual. My mind is blown.
How was he already fukked up in the present these past 5-6 years if Bran had never warged into him in the past yet...
 
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Hold the door!! Hold the door!!

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Our man was a sacrificial lamb from the start. A true tragic hero. :mjcry:
 
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