GOP National Voter Suppression (Interstate Crosscheck, ID, Poll Closures, Voter Patrols)
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Bernie Madoff
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Bernie Madoff
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So Blacks = Felons now?
Exactly ...the racist paternalism of the democratic party
....why are Black voting rights being portrayed as mutually exclusive with denying violent felons rightsI agree with it myself..not permanently but IMO one should lose that right for at least as long as their sentence if not double...
Absolutely not. If you are released, you should have the right to vote. This is one of the reasons, along with many others, recidivism is so high. If you let them out, you can't handcuff them as citizens. If you can't find a job, housing, have an effect on politics in your community, you tend to fukk up again. The courts have said they can come out and be among us, then they should have the right to vote. I don't see a logical argument against this. It is a rather archaic, almost draconian policy.Exactly ...the racist paternalism of the democratic party
I agree with it myself..not permanently but IMO one should lose that right for at least as long as their sentence if not double...
Exactly ...the racist paternalism of the democratic party
I agree with it myself..not permanently but IMO one should lose that right for at least as long as their sentence if not double...
The leading cause of incarcerated black males is non-violent drug offenses.
Black males make up most of the prison population
White ppl like @Bernie Madoff and @Aelyas en passant want blacks to vote Rethug but don't know much about black issues
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black people are policed differently than other people, so yeah, we should be disturbed by any attempts to further the marginalization of felons. if they are to be released, they should be given every incentive to be a stakeholder in society, not a permanent underclass.
it's funny how people on both sides have attempted to silence discourse that highlights black people's social problems in america by killing the messenger. when trump tells black people that we "have no jobs" and "get shot", people on the left react as if what he said is utterly false when it is exaggerated but essentially true. we are the last hired and the first fired. our wealth is terrible, and we make up an incredibly high percentage of victims of violence. but if you listen to neoliberal black democrats, we are all huxtables whenever trump criticizes the results of voting democrat for black people. on the flipside, if you mention that disenfranchising felons is an assault on black voting rights, people on the right ironically want to act like you are saying something politically incorrect. black people are hounded by the criminal justice system so we have higher rates of arrest, more violations of civil rights, and harsher sentences.
we do have to be worried about how ex-cons are treated because we are disproportionately turned into ex-cons.
it's funny how people on both sides have attempted to silence discourse that highlights black people's social problems in america by killing the messenger. when trump tells black people that we "have no jobs" and "get shot", people on the left react as if what he said is utterly false when it is exaggerated but essentially true. we are the last hired and the first fired. our wealth is terrible, and we make up an incredibly high percentage of victims of violence. but if you listen to neoliberal black democrats, we are all huxtables whenever trump criticizes the results of voting democrat for black people. on the flipside, if you mention that disenfranchising felons is an assault on black voting rights, people on the right ironically want to act like you are saying something politically incorrect. black people are hounded by the criminal justice system so we have higher rates of arrest, more violations of civil rights, and harsher sentences.
we do have to be worried about how ex-cons are treated because we are disproportionately turned into ex-cons.
You keep proving Trumps point about Negros having shytty schools every time you post...and youre way off i guarantee im darker than 97% of you low literacy militants.First (MOST PEOPLE ) dontlose voting rights for non violent drug offenses so you dont know what youre talking about
Second...i dont know why you cant make the simple logical conclusion that when its time to vote for mayors,Attorney Generals,County prosecutor/District attorney it should be a given that the Rapists,Gangsters and Attempted murderers they put away should be restricted .
Third Shame on YOU for intersecting the interests of Black people and Violent felons...most of those Nikkas were put away for Killing or trying to kill another Black man(or victimizing black people in many other ways)...does that bother you? Youre fighting for the murderers right to vote but what about the VICTIM who is buried somewhere..what about his right?
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First nobody loses voting rights for non violent drug offenses so you dont know what youre talking about
Second...i dont know why you cant make the simple logical conclusion that when its time to vote for mayors,Attorney Generals,County prosecutor/District attorney it should be a given that the Rapists,Gangsters and Attempted murderers they put away should absolutely NOT have a vote .
does that bother you? Youre fighting for the murderers right to vote but what about the VICTIM who is buried somewhere..what about his right?
What the fukk are you even talking about? Felons can't vote depending on the state. Non-violent drug offenses can be felonies (cocaine distribution, possession of felony amounts, trafficking, etc.). So non violent drug felons can't vote in some places. Are you retarded? Do you really think all felons are murderers? Or even the majority of them? Do you think a lot of murderers are released to vote as compared to say, carjacking, computer hacking, white collar crime felons with shorter sentences? How do you manage to breathe?
I agree they should eventually be restored but thats not the reason recidivism is High..that has more to do with the lack of rehabilitation programs ,Gang membership and other issues.
You seem to forget in alot of locales there are elections for County prosecutor/District attorney and Judges,Sheriff and so on...
do you think the people who got put away by them should have a say in the election? Would they vote the same way as their victims?
I said I support restrictions on Violent offenders..which is the case in most states...
PS I edited my post so i dont have to deal with more Bullshyt distracting replies like this
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Elmo says Youre a dumbass who cant read...Did i say ANY of that..
I said I support restrictions on Violent offenders..which is the case in most states...
You literally said no one loses voting rights by non-violent offenses.
This is factually incorrect. Would you like to retract it, or would you like to continue pretending like you didn't say it?
You also said "most" inmates were put away for killing or trying to kill another black man.
Take a look, it's ranked 8th and not even remotely close to drug offenses. BOP Statistics: Inmate Offenses
This is factually incorrect. Would you like to retract it, or would you like to continue pretending like you didn't say it?
Most non violent drug offenses are classified as misdemeanors..i dont even have to look this up
Second thats not what i said..I said " most Black violent felons are in there for victimizing other Black people"..this is easily proven on the DOJ website
Oh youre absolutely right..I wasnt specific enough...I should have added other violent offenses like rape,burglary ,assault,weapons charges,extortion robbery etc..
IN FACT everything on that list OTHER than drugs.
So heres the question for you if you add up all those others you think its going to be a pretty big number?
So whats wrong with the claim that MOST black violent offenders are there for brutalizing other black people...