Going "back to Africa"

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That's it for now I had more but back around 2013-2014 nairaland had a huge data wipe and alot of my post were wiped. As you can see from the 2013 date I've been posting on Africa & the diaspora for over 5 years now and been in study over 10 so most of the things I say I'd rather just quote myself than type out shyt I've been saying for damn near half a decade.

When that wipe hit I lost post and a desire to contribute. I really should just write a book on Africa & the diaspora given all the books, pamphlets, documentaries, people, self reflection, etc I'v gone through over the past 10 years.:francis:

That said I'll add some more here later ...I'm hungry now :lolbron:
 
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Yea breh i'm not surprised that african americans are taking steps to reach out to africa. We BEEN doing that :heh:

Raymond Burrr said:
Fair enough but the logic adds up :ehh:
1. African governments aren't fighting for us in the diaspora (descendants of slaves).
2. African people aren't fighting to pressure their governments to fight for us in the diaspora.
3. A lot of africans get over here and due to cultural differences, ignorance and/or arrogance, they hate on us and c00n it up.

These are facts :francis:
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I look forward to seeing your reply to all three claims and i hope to be proven wrong.

Just a heads up. Trying to dismiss claim number 3, as my "individual experience" isn't gonna hold up. When you have enough "individuals" sharing similar experiences, you can't dismiss them so easily.
 
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Raymond Burrr said:
Yea breh i'm not surprised that african americans are taking steps to reach out to africa. We BEEN doing that :heh:



I look forward to seeing your reply to all three claims and i hope to be proven wrong.

Just a heads up. Trying to dismiss claim number 3, as my "individual experience" isn't gonna hold up. When you have enough "individuals" sharing similar experiences, you can't dismiss them so easily.
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Thanks though I'm not convinced it's something I quite need to speak on just yet. That said if I were to speak on anything it would be the following response from you in a different thread...:patrice:
Raymond Burrr said:
Your ideas about wealth valuation don't mean a damn thing in this system of white supremacy :martin:

When you compete with whitey, you'll be competing on HIS terms :ufdup:

When it's time to sell our properties, your $400,000 mini mansion in atlanta can't fukk with my $600,000 1 bedroom apt in frisco :win:
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Now in regard to you being "proven wrong" ...that's not really my angle when speaking to people.

:ufdup:by RandomAfricanAm: 3:10am On Dec 14, 2013
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Note: We can agree to disagree on the DNA(or anything for that matter) I don't want to **win** I want resolution. I don't do "academic debates" I have conversations with people.
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:ufdup:by RandomAfricanAm: 4:50am On Dec 10, 2013
Fair enough, I'll drop off. My points have been largely addressed anyway.
Side note: I don't do debates they reek of people(I'm not saying you) constantly trying to "win". I just want to understand a persons position and make sure my position is clearly understood. Afterwards come to some (dis)agreement then move on to the next step.

I despise "academic debate" ...it's one of those residual European cultural nuggets that don't suit me at all
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Basically my position is to produce alternatives to whatever is being pushed(that's not inline with my world view) not to hunt down people I disagree with to prove them wrong. This thread being a great example. What do I look like telling someone in (insert African country here) that you are wrong, African Americans do come to Africa. They are just going to argue back well I never see any.

Instead of arguing down some specific persons experiences, I bypassed that dead end argument and instead argued generally against using a particular experience to say African Americans don't go to Africa ...only Europeans come here. How did I do that? By simply producing information showing African Americans in Africa.
Now does that make the person who never sees African Americans wrong ...a lair? Nope:ehh:
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Thing is that wasn't the point of contention anyway. The point of contention was a subset of Africans on nairaland attempting to build a "universal case" off of their individual experiences.

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I'll bite...

I don't think it's a case of being cliquish:jbhmm: ...more so than a case of given the hundreds/thousands of people with information on African history on the Continent & Diaspora why should this one person receive our attention?:patrice:
Now you do put forth a reasonable case for why his material should be reviewed:hubie: but I feel the best case for me personally is to produce viable valid information / interpretations of historical material. I'm very clear on the...

"atheist dilemma" - I.E. you can't tell a person to stop doing something they value without providing a viable alternative.

My role is to produce viable alternatives not to chase down every wack job who says "black people aren't from Africa they from (America, Europe, the moon)" etc.
That said I don't disparage people playing defense(hell I might even poke my head in). There is a place for that, but i'm on the offensive squad.:jawalrus:
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I.E. For the most part I don't go around trying to prove people wrong I just get clarity on peoples position and produce info.


The closest I could think of me "debating" someone would be....:patrice:
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/22350234/
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http://www.thecoli.com/posts/22596774/

...and even then it's basically just me stating and clarifying my position while trying to understand theirs.:yeshrug::ehh:​
 
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Ya'll inspire me to step my game up. I can't wait to visit one day.
 
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