So I made this thread years ago on nairaland because I noticed a trend of people making the claim...
...type comments.
This always threw me for a loop because first off if your walking down the street and see someone a block(hell, half a block) away you have no way of knowing who that person is at a glance. A white person is obviously white at a glance. Second Diasporans probably ain't coming to Africa to do the exact same things Europeans are. So just because you don't see them in insert [tourist trap here] means little.
I'm making the tread here on thecoli because...
1. @KidStranglehold suggested it would be a good addition(and I agree)
2. I agree because there is this ridiculous thing I keep speaking on where people take their individual local experiences with African immigrants and try to make wide scale generalizations based on those very local issues.
I actually need to go in on this whole reply
.......I got to that last part and dismissed the rest
Luckily I've seen such a variety of positions between African people on the continent and in diaspora that make's it easy for me to take any given person/group holding questionable ideas with a grain and keep it pushing.
...type comments.
This always threw me for a loop because first off if your walking down the street and see someone a block(hell, half a block) away you have no way of knowing who that person is at a glance. A white person is obviously white at a glance. Second Diasporans probably ain't coming to Africa to do the exact same things Europeans are. So just because you don't see them in insert [tourist trap here] means little.
I'm making the tread here on thecoli because...
1. @KidStranglehold suggested it would be a good addition(and I agree)
2. I agree because there is this ridiculous thing I keep speaking on where people take their individual local experiences with African immigrants and try to make wide scale generalizations based on those very local issues.
Examples:
Ok, so your talking diaspora which is what I figured .......(didn't think we had folks from Amsterdam on board).
I'm not knocking your observation one bit. That said I tend to take such observations "with a grain of salt"(so to speak)
Why do I down play your observations?
In short: issues between "black people" and "Moroccan citizens" in Amsterdam probably has just as much(if not more) to do with local dynamics than anything inherent to Moroccan citizens in Morocco.
(Which is what @KidStranglehold was referring to)
Example:
Here in the states you have African Americans in my experience typically from places like NYC, Washington D.C., Minnesota, etc (not shytting on anyone) who talk about "Africans don't like us". Basically they take their local reality and try to extrapolate it to apply to everyone when what they are complaining about typically has more to do with their local dynamics than any "universal truth" that all/most "Africans" hold. For that matter it probably doesn't even hold for other African Americans that don't live in those locations.
As a result I don't weigh the experiences of people in diaspora very strongly(outside of their local dynamic) as pertains to their dealings with people visiting/immigrating from the continent.
Fair enough but the logic adds up
1. African governments aren't fighting for us in the diaspora (descendants of slaves).
2. African people aren't fighting to pressure their governments to fight for us in the diaspora.
3. A lot of africans get over here and due to cultural differences, ignorance and/or arrogance, they hate on us and c00n it up.
These are facts
I actually need to go in on this whole reply
.......I got to that last part and dismissed the restLuckily I've seen such a variety of positions between African people on the continent and in diaspora that make's it easy for me to take any given person/group holding questionable ideas with a grain and keep it pushing.
With that said ...here we go!
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