I mean the dismissive attitude like this towards any issue men bring up with the power structure runs more men away than they keep. Neither side really seems to want to fix the alimony/child support/custody system but at least the right is not being dismissive with the rhetoric, which is a more effective tactic at attracting a base. The left seems to be adamant in using hyperbole to dismiss any issues men seem to have especially with regards to their treatment by the court system in family law.
Global trend emerging: Men are increasingly right wing, women are increasingly left wing
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R u stupd or do u just not know how to read.
Read my post again specifically the third point.
There was a time in America when if a black man even looked at white men wrong he was hung from a tree.
That’s what going on civil rights are bundled up with everything else in this liberal agenda including women’s rights.
In a racist mind the higherachy is
White men
White women
Black men
Black women
White men rather have white women in power then any minority. And if you don’t think white women can be racist you got another thing coming.
The issue is much more deeper the women’s rights it’s just a ploy for votes. But the end game is white women as the pinnacle, and any other type of women as unattractive and undesirable.
So voting Republican would change things for the better somehow for black men with this?
I never said the left/ democrats don’t have tons of faults but to act like voting Republican is the solution for black Men makes no sense
And this lead to the problem in our community. These guys are playin chess not checkers. Decades ahead while you think one voting cycle is going to change things. It’s pathetic.
It’s the end game decades from now. Either part will be some form of white power.
Just like in last election cycle. No one wanted Biden but it was the only choice besides trump.
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Those damn women thinking they should have the same rights as men
And I don’t have a solution all I know is that’s the game amerikkka is playing.
Those damn women thinking they should have the same rights as men
That’s not what I’m sayingFair enough I can’t blame you totally if you don’t think either side is the answer.
I thought you were saying somehow voting Republican would help things
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I know it's not, but it seems as if you're blaming them for essentially pushing back on what they rightfully and accurately see as men attempting to take their freedom away from them. They shouldn't be put at fault for doing exactly what they should be doing which is pushing back on right wing nonsense. Right wing governance is always bad and never results in anything good. It always involves oppression and murder of non white men. It's just awful and yet we have people on this board that defend it to the death. It's insanity, literally the "Leopards eating faces" party stuff come to life.
Prime example of this, the southern united states, Israel and Palestine, Russian aggression in Europe and of course the best modern day example of them all....the united states activities overseas
This is interesting.
I personally am pretty progressive for the most part. I support reparations for black Americans and other black groups from their respective colonizer/enslaver, secularism, much higher taxes for the rich and super wealthy, anti-capitalism and democratic socialistic systems, anti-imperialism, African and global south self determination and am supportive of LGBT freedoms. I also understand as others have astutely mentioned that women are still oppressed globally and that women’s lib can only occur in progressively economic, political and sociocultural conditions.
I have criticized (white dominated and colonial strains of) feminism heavily on here for its anti-blackness and antagonism of black men and women but again I get why women are becoming more progressive, anti-current order and feministic. “Child marriage” is rife across the world and it almost completely affects female children. Marital rape and intimate partner violence against women are commonplace in dozens and dozens of cultures. Women are still playing catch up in wealth parity in comparison to their male counterparts. Reproductive rights have been getting attacked relentlessly in by west and abroad. I haven’t even gone in depth about FGM, honour killings, labia stretching, the killing of “witches”, femicide etc.
To paraphrase Kenyan artist Wangechi Mutu: to be a woman is to basically not be your own person.
I have empathy for women and girls. I have been radicalized as a lower middle class black man with a disability/chronic illness and I empathize with the growing radicalization of women and girls. Misogyny is genuinely senseless thing and as others have said: the men of industrialized societies in particular are failing to catch up to the level of progress women are aspiring to.
I’ve had many men in my life who say patriarchy is “normal and the order of things”. This is false. It is a system engendered by capitalism-imperialism, sexual exploitation and rape culture, fundamentalist religion and the suppression of female spiritual paradigms and the “might makes right” culture which inherently excludes women due to the physiological strength differential between the sexes. Reading Black male studies and Africana woman’s philosophy has been therapeutic for me and has helped me understand how patriarchy must be defeated just like white supremacy for their to be true justice. We all live under a white man’s patriarchy: if you are on the fence as a black man, ask yourself how another man’s hatred of women, gays and out group males (including black men) benefits you? Conservatism imho is just the hatred of women, gays, poor people, the disabled and out-group males.
Women hold up half the sky. I support them in their endeavors of seeking autonomy, liberation purpose and personhood. Our female counterparts, daughters, mothers, sisters, female friends and relatives and the rest of womankind etc deserve their humanity to honoured.
I personally am pretty progressive for the most part. I support reparations for black Americans and other black groups from their respective colonizer/enslaver, secularism, much higher taxes for the rich and super wealthy, anti-capitalism and democratic socialistic systems, anti-imperialism, African and global south self determination and am supportive of LGBT freedoms. I also understand as others have astutely mentioned that women are still oppressed globally and that women’s lib can only occur in progressively economic, political and sociocultural conditions.
I have criticized (white dominated and colonial strains of) feminism heavily on here for its anti-blackness and antagonism of black men and women but again I get why women are becoming more progressive, anti-current order and feministic. “Child marriage” is rife across the world and it almost completely affects female children. Marital rape and intimate partner violence against women are commonplace in dozens and dozens of cultures. Women are still playing catch up in wealth parity in comparison to their male counterparts. Reproductive rights have been getting attacked relentlessly in by west and abroad. I haven’t even gone in depth about FGM, honour killings, labia stretching, the killing of “witches”, femicide etc.
To paraphrase Kenyan artist Wangechi Mutu: to be a woman is to basically not be your own person.
I have empathy for women and girls. I have been radicalized as a lower middle class black man with a disability/chronic illness and I empathize with the growing radicalization of women and girls. Misogyny is genuinely senseless thing and as others have said: the men of industrialized societies in particular are failing to catch up to the level of progress women are aspiring to.
I’ve had many men in my life who say patriarchy is “normal and the order of things”. This is false. It is a system engendered by capitalism-imperialism, sexual exploitation and rape culture, fundamentalist religion and the suppression of female spiritual paradigms and the “might makes right” culture which inherently excludes women due to the physiological strength differential between the sexes. Reading Black male studies and Africana woman’s philosophy has been therapeutic for me and has helped me understand how patriarchy must be defeated just like white supremacy for their to be true justice. We all live under a white man’s patriarchy: if you are on the fence as a black man, ask yourself how another man’s hatred of women, gays and out group males (including black men) benefits you? Conservatism imho is just the hatred of women, gays, poor people, the disabled and out-group males.
Women hold up half the sky. I support them in their endeavors of seeking autonomy, liberation purpose and personhood. Our female counterparts, daughters, mothers, sisters, female friends and relatives and the rest of womankind etc deserve their humanity to honoured.
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Raised Glass to the Squandered Potentials..
With the rise of tiktok specifically but SM as a whole, the collective West is coming to grips with a bigger purview of geo-global politics, economics, political nefariousness, and domestic failings. They say that "the young are democrats, and they grow up into republicans/conservative," it's like that but it's a biological imperative on the male psychological side of things. Men do not take chances in structure when danger or resources are limited. It turns into securing the perimeter, storing our resources food/money, and protecting the family....it just looks different when you apply it to a collective society.
A young naive society is one of decadence/ignorance, and this is a turning. It is present in almost every sector of our sociological arena, the new doctrine, beliefs, theory, and culture. That is only possible when in this turning. The hairs are standing up on the arms for most men I associate with, and for good reason.
A young naive society is one of decadence/ignorance, and this is a turning. It is present in almost every sector of our sociological arena, the new doctrine, beliefs, theory, and culture. That is only possible when in this turning. The hairs are standing up on the arms for most men I associate with, and for good reason.
I’m not blaming women for anything. In my opinion, This trend, and others, signal that there will be a backlash
See e.g. abortion bans in this country or half the posters in this forum
Increasing amounts of men are being out competed by women and will initiate a backlash against women and these gender wars do not help
Women are vulnerable and will need male allies to combat this backlash
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So white men are fragile babies incapable of dealing with adversity and expect everything to be handed to them....
exactlySo white men are fragile babies incapable of dealing with adversity and expect everything to be handed to them....
And plenty of other nonwhite men agree with them
The reality is that women do need men that will align themselves politically with women's beliefs and views if women want to continue to have the freedoms that they do.
If all men jumped to the hard right philosophy, society would essentially be what you see in the Handmaid's Tale. Women's safety and freedom is dependent on men behaving and adhering to the system of laws and policies that protect them.
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