Global Protest against MONSANTO -5/25 -- AMAZING

[Aizen]

Is this a protest focused on GMO foods in general or just Monsanto?

Because there are no studies that indicate GMO foods are harmful for you.

There are several studies about GMO food being harmful. Thus the protest is about both.

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

There are several studies about GMO food being harmful. Thus the protest is about both.

There is broad scientific consensus that food on the market derived from GM crops pose no greater risk than conventional food.

AAAS - AAAS Board of Directors: Legally Mandating GM Food Labels Could ?Mislead and Falsely Alarm Consumers?

http://www.ama-assn.org/resources/doc/csaph/a12-csaph2-bioengineeredfoods.pdf

WHO | 20 questions on genetically modified foods

http://ec.europa.eu/research/biosociety/pdf/a_decade_of_eu-funded_gmo_research.pdf

Which LEGITIMATE scientific study says otherwise?

 

[RAX 010]

Too little too late....

 

[ryderldb]

Hope this drive Monsanto stock price even further. I'm bout to

 

[Aizen]

There is broad scientific consensus that food on the market derived from GM crops pose no greater risk than conventional food.

AAAS - AAAS Board of Directors: Legally Mandating GM Food Labels Could ?Mislead and Falsely Alarm Consumers?

http://www.ama-assn.org/resources/doc/csaph/a12-csaph2-bioengineeredfoods.pdf

WHO | 20 questions on genetically modified foods

http://ec.europa.eu/research/biosociety/pdf/a_decade_of_eu-funded_gmo_research.pdf

Which LEGITIMATE scientific study says otherwise?

1) 2010 Huffington Post: Genetically Modified Soy Linked to Sterility, Infant Mortality in Hamsters

Jeffrey Smith: Genetically Modified Soy Linked to Sterility, Infant Mortality in Hamsters

Summary: GM Soy from Monsanto in some cases, within three generations caused sterility, hair to grow inside mouths, slower growth and higher mortality amongst pups.

Within the article, it refers to a 2005 study by Irina Ermakova along with the National Academy of Sciences finding more than half of the babies of mother rats dying when fed GM soy within 3 weeks. It also cites an Australian government study published in November 2008.

2) 2009 International Journal of Biological Sciences: A Comparison of the Effects of Three GM Corn Varieties on Mammalian Health

http://www.ijbs.com/v05p0706.htm

Summary: Rats were fed 3 types of GMO corn and their health was chronicled. These rats were fed over a period of 90 days. The general patterns seemed to be GM maize varieties induced a "state of hepatorenal toxicity," which refers to kidney failure. A possible issue with these GM-based products is the pesticide residue within the maize variety itself. Other organs such as the heart showed changes too.

3) 2012 The Grocer: Monsanto Roundup weedkiller and GM maize implicated in 'shocking' new cancer study

http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/topics/t...maize-in-shocking-cancer-study/232603.article

Summary: A peer-reviewed study conducted by a team of researchers at the University of Caen found rats ingesting NK603 Roundup resistant GM maize or given water containing Roundup at levels permitted in drinking water over a two year period died significantly earlier than rats on a standard diet. This study was published in the journal Food and Chemical Toxicology. Rats have long been used as surrogates for human beings in toxicology studies.

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The main idea to derive from this is the issue is divided and 64 countries around the world require GMO labeling, including India and China (which believe its consumers have a right to know). The pattern I will be looking towards in the future are more studies dealing with organ failures and sterility. If in several decades people start having fertility issues, the issue will be studied with a variety of angles and the study will definitely look into the diets of said people.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

1) 2010 Huffington Post: Genetically Modified Soy Linked to Sterility, Infant Mortality in Hamsters

Jeffrey Smith: Genetically Modified Soy Linked to Sterility, Infant Mortality in Hamsters

Summary: GM Soy from Monsanto in some cases, within three generations caused sterility, hair to grow inside mouths, slower growth and higher mortality amongst pups.

Within the article, it refers to a 2005 study by Irina Ermakova along with the National Academy of Sciences finding more than half of the babies of mother rats dying when fed GM soy within 3 weeks. It also cites an Australian government study published in November 2008.

2) 2009 International Journal of Biological Sciences: A Comparison of the Effects of Three GM Corn Varieties on Mammalian Health

A Comparison of the Effects of Three GM Corn Varieties on Mammalian Health

Summary: Rats were fed 3 types of GMO corn and their health was chronicled. These rats were fed over a period of 90 days. The general patterns seemed to be GM maize varieties induced a "state of hepatorenal toxicity," which refers to kidney failure. A possible issue with these GM-based products is the pesticide residue within the maize variety itself. Other organs such as the heart showed changes too.

3) 2012 The Grocer: Monsanto Roundup weedkiller and GM maize implicated in 'shocking' new cancer study

Monsanto weedkiller and GM maize in 'shocking' cancer study

Summary: A peer-reviewed study conducted by a team of researchers at the University of Caen found rats ingesting NK603 Roundup resistant GM maize or given water containing Roundup at levels permitted in drinking water over a two year period died significantly earlier than rats on a standard diet. This study was published in the journal Food and Chemical Toxicology. Rats have long been used as surrogates for human beings in toxicology studies.

I don't know about the others but the last study you cited is complete bullshyt. This Seralini guy is shunned by the entire scientific community.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9ralini_affair#Criticism_of_the_study_by_scientists_and_regulatory_bodies

edit: the second study is done by the same guy so I'm going to call bullshyt on it too.

http://www.reddit.com/r/GMOFacts/comments/15xwui/a_comparison_of_the_effects_of_three_gm_corn/

 

[Aizen]

I don't know about the others but the last study you cited is complete bullshyt. This Seralini guy is shunned by the entire scientific community.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9ralini_affair#Criticism_of_the_study_by_scientists_and_regulatory_bodies

edit: the second study is done by the same guy so I'm going to call bullshyt on it too.

A Comparison of the Effects of Three GM Corn Varieties on Mammalian Health : GMOFacts/

Even not using Seralini, other scientists are finding similar claims (such as Dr. Don Huber).

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Even not using Seralini, other scientists are finding similar claims (such as Dr. Don Huber).

its a good thing we didn't have people like you blinded by propaganda decades ago or we wouldn't of had Norman Borlaug.

 

[Aizen]

its a good thing we didn't have people like you blinded by propaganda decades ago or we wouldn't of had Norman Borlaug.

Do you believe Dr. Don Huber is propaganda? I do not but I await your findings.

 

[Blackking]

@ this gettin no replies



sad people in fukkin south africa know what monsanto is but the crew @ #higherlearning here in america has no idea and dont even know why they should care

I feel like a c00n for laughing at this pic when I first saw it.

 

[Blackking]

the world is waking up

They had over 11 billion in revenue FY 11... I'm sure they really care.

 

[newworldafro]

GM Cabbage with Scorpion Poison Coming Soon | The Daily Sheeple

GM Cabbage with Scorpion Poison Coming Soon

Heidi Stevenson
Gaia Health
June 27th, 2013


Agribusiness is in a mad rush to take over the earth, and seems willing to stop at nothing. Coming soon is cabbage with scorpion poison engineered in every cell. Of course, they claim it’s safe and will result in less pesticide use, but history and logic say otherwise. Who will wake from the insane mating between Agribiz and GMOs?

Get ready for genetically engineered cabbages that come complete with their own scorpion poison, just for you to eat. It’s touted as requiring less pesticide use and being, of course, completely safe. Close investigation, though, indicates that neither claim is likely true.

A pesticide made with scorpion poison genetically engineered into a virus was first tested back in 1994. Interestingly, the scientists who sprayed the test field wore full body suits to protect them from this “harmless” poison. One must wonder at just how safe it could be when the developers themselves don’t trust it more than that! Of course, the head of the trial, Professor David Bishop, insisted that the trial was safe—though he himself opted to take a vacation, rather than be there for it.

In the newer incarnation of scorpion poison genetic engineering, genes from the scorpion, Androctonus australus hector, for production of poison are being genetically engineered into cabbages. The goal is to produce them for public consumption. With the FDA’s history of rubberstamp approvals for genetically modified crops, it seems unlikely that anything will interfere with their production and entry into a supermarket near you.

Let’s examine the justifications given for this never-to-be-found-in-nature cabbage-scorpion chimera:

1. It will result in the use of less pesticide.

At first blush, this seems to make sense. But it’s specious reasoning. The reality is that, instead of spraying pesticides onto the plants, the plants will contain them in every single cell. The result is that the pesticide will end up in the bodies of people who eat the cabbage. Thus, human beings will become the unofficial pesticide sinks, instead of the environment. I suppose there’s a plus in that, but I do not personally intend to be one of those pesticide sinks. Do you?

2. It’s completely safe.

Where have we heard that before? In this instance it stems from two things:
•The scorpion venom has been modified so that it won’t hurt humans: This isn’t quite true. What they’ve done is select a section of the genome that codes for a toxin, called AAiT, which is known to be poisonous to insects.
•A study that purports to show that it does no harm to humans[2]: Well … not exactly. The human testing was not performed on live people, nor was it performed on normal healthy cells. It was tested on MCF-7 breast cancer cells—not exactly normal human cells. Do you find that comforting? I certainly don’t.

Will Frankencabbages Be Effective At Stopping Pests?

This is, of course, the real issue, because it’s why farmers Agribusiness would want it. That could prove to be a problem. According to the study on AAiT’s toxicity against insect cells, the toxicity is greatly limited by ingestion. The authors wrote:

[L]ow toxicity with an LC50 of 18.4 μM was recorded in artificial diet incorporation assay in which the toxin was consumed by the testing insect through feeding. We suggested that this might be a result of toxin degradation by digestion.[2]

The LD50—the point at which 50% of the insects die—was recorded at only 0.13 μM when AAiT was applied directly. They found a difference of “2 orders of magnitude” when the toxin was directly applied instead of ingested. That’s a huge difference—and would tend to suggest that the scorpion toxin won’t be all that effective in the plants, since it must be ingested by insects. So, in all likelihood, sprays will still be used.

Will this matter to the buyers of Frankencabbage seeds? It’s hard to say, but the history of these products would tend to indicate a remarkable gullibility. Consider that production has never been much better in genetically engineered seeds, and when it has, it’s tended to deteriorate over time.[3] The legacy of Roundup Ready, glyphosate-resistant, crops has been superweeds that not only are resistant to glyphosate, but grow much bigger and faster than the original weeds.

Keep in mind, also, that the use of genetically modified seeds tends to come with codicils that lock the buyer, and even subsequent users of the land, into buying nothing else.

Perhaps, ultimately, it will be the Frankenseeds themselves that destroy Agribusiness! They’re locked into a system that is proving not to work. The real question, then, is whether they’ll destroy the earth—and us—before they’ve destroyed themselves.

The concern posited by the image at the top of the page is serious: Once Agribusiness got into bed with recombinant DNA produce, they made a bargain with the devil. Ultimately, it seems unlikely that even Agribusiness will wake up from their attempt to take over the earth.