Giving Poor Kids Computers Does Nothing Whatsoever To Their Educational Outcomes

[Blackking]

but yeah, the social factors affect the way children 'receive' the education. Saying that the cookie cutter solution to all the urban and low class issues is capitalism is something that should make intelligent people's ears bleed.

The solution can't Simply Be more capitalism because capitalism was around and helped create the situation of blue collar and working class kids not knowing shyt- but the jobs and industries that capitalism produced --- while ignoring any interest in science and technology.

 

[Crakface]

If parents arent involved in making sure their kids understand the material and sending them to tutors when they do not then the kids just end up like

@BrothaZay

 

[theworldismine13]

that's pretty terrifying because we are not really creating lots of jobs for educated people. most new jobs are service sector with little education needed. many educated people are now fighting for scraps and seeing their investment in education look like a bust. under these conditions, having everyone in america become a college grad would simply mean that jobs for college grads would become even less lucrative than they are today thanks to supply and demand

that's just a pessimistic view, the reality is that the US needs more college graduates to sustain its economy

 

[theworldismine13]

but yeah, the social factors affect the way children 'receive' the education. Saying that the cookie cutter solution to all the urban and low class issues is capitalism is something that should make intelligent people's ears bleed.

The solution can't Simply Be more capitalism because capitalism was around and helped create the situation of blue collar and working class kids not knowing shyt- but the jobs and industries that capitalism produced --- while ignoring any interest in science and technology.

when i said capitlasim i was referring to jobs not schools

but as far as schools, yeah they should be also be a free market in that sector too, the public school system is not designed for the way the economy and jobs are changing, so the public school system needs to destroyed and rebuilt

 

[NZA]

that's just a pessimistic view, the reality is that the US needs more college graduates to sustain its economy

im looking at reality. look at the starting salaries of college grads over time. look at the unemployment and underemployment. also, look at the makeup of new job creation since 2008. service sector and low paying college grad exploitation, basically. i think real growth will come from product innovation, not reshuffling the existing race to the bottom.

 

[theworldismine13]

im looking at reality. look at the starting salaries of college grads over time. look at the unemployment and underemployment. also, look at the makeup of new job creation since 2008. service sector and low paying college grad exploitation, basically. i think real growth will come from product innovation, not reshuffling the existing race to the bottom.

that is due to restructuring in the economy and public schools and universities not restructuring fast enough, but i think it will even out in the end, so we have to destroy the public school system and rebuild it, we have to make college cheaper and also we have to stop an influx of immigrants into the economy, that is how you stabilize the situation

 

[ghostwriterx]

I think this is an important finding because it helps shed some light on the socioeconomic disparities in educational outcomes. We know that kids from higher-income households do much better in school than poor kids. But that of course raises the question of why that is exactly or what one might do about it. For example, would cash transfers to low-income parents make their kids do better in school? If access to home computers was associated with improved school performance, that would be strong evidence that simply fighting poverty with money could be highly effective education policy. The null finding tends to suggest otherwise, that the ways in which high-income families help their kids in school don't relate to durable goods purchases and may be things like social capital or direct parental involvement in the instructional process that—unlike computers—can't be purchased on the open market.

An obvious conclusion would be that kids from higher income households attend higher quality schools. A cash voucher to be used at a better school is going to have more impact than a cash voucher for a free computer. Computers aren't magic, you don't just turn them on and absorb knowledge.

Here's another study examining the correlation between computer use and academic achievement on standardized testing.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/19387.php

Analyzing test performance and computer uses of 986 fourth grade students from 55 classrooms in nine Massachusetts school districts, the study found that the more regularly students use computers to write papers for school, the better they performed on the Massachusetts Comprehensive Assessment Systems (MCAS) English/Language Arts exam. This positive effect occurred despite the fact that students were not allowed to use computers for the test.

Conversely, the study found that students' recreational use of computers to play games, explore the Internet for fun, or chat with friends at home had a negative effect on students' MCAS reading scores. Similarly, students' use of computers to create PowerPoint presentations was also negatively associated with MCAS writing scores.

This study was part of a larger report: Use, Support, and Effect of Instructional Technology Study
http://www.bc.edu/research/intasc/researchprojects/USEIT/useit.shtml

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

IT'S LIKE GIVING INJECTION MOLDING MACHINE TO A KID AND EXPECTING THEM TO MAKE PARTS WITH IT. DOESN'T HELP IF NOBODY SHOWS THEM HOW TO USE IT PROPERLY.

 

[Midrash]

Poor kids don't need money thrown at them. Yes poorly funded schools doesn't help either but students need a love of learning, effective study skills/habits, a rich social environment and ample opportunities to practice these things on a consistent basis. I feel like most kids in the ghetto need a surrogate environment where they can thrive and compete with middle class white kids in terms of learning and growing.

The hood simply isn't effective on the cognitive growth on children.

How is a student going to learn to effectively master studying and perfecting his academic craft if doing so is considered "acting white"?


By giving kids opportunities to do their passion and strive for academic scholarship will allow them to grow mentally, emotionally and give them skills that will be impossible to take away or diminish.

You can always lose money, society can take away your social prestige, you can break a bone but its rare that you will lose your intelligence/wisdom unless you voluntarily decide to. That's why its important not to lose intelligence.

 

[Street Knowledge]

I feel when a child turns out great academically(and just in general)the parents many times get too much credit, and when a child turns out bad many times the parents get too much blame

They're a lot of kids who flat out don't give a fukk about school and it wouldn't matter who their parents were or the environment they grew up in and the same is true vice versa