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I agree with all of this


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This season has been amazing
I really enjoy how Lena writes. She probably has one of the most realistic portrayals of WW I've ever seen. All her characters have very unique layered personalities that really reflect reality but also have a very artsy almost whimsical air to them. I hopes she continues to work with HBO after the show ends though I do hoped that her naked body is not something that continues to be forced upon us.
 

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No they're not. That was them realizing that it would never work. That's why at the end he went back home and Jessa had the smile on her face.
:ohhh: that's why she started ballin?

I thought it was cause Adam was stupid as fukk to mention that he'd been looking at an apartment that required married couples :francis:
 

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:ohhh: that's why she started ballin?

I thought it was cause Adam was stupid as fukk to mention that he'd been looking at an apartment that required married couples :francis:
Honestly I didn't get it at first either. Jessa's smile kinda tipped me off and then they broke it down in the short "after show" On Demand. So I had to go rewatch the scene to really understand what took place in that moment.

Basically they wanted to portray those 2 having a last hurrah that lived and died in a very short amount of time.
 

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Is Jessa pregnant? Or was it from Adam dropping that bullshyt on her? Years of television has taught me that a female suddenly throwing up is the former.

Hannah would die a million deaths if Jessa is pregnant. Adam would probably be overjoyed. Damn that would burn the hell out of Hannah's soul.

That scene with the Brooklyn residents was really good:obama:

And as for the last few posts, Jessa being pregnant would make Hannah wanna get an abortion:mjgrin:

Adam ain't going to be excited for shyt if Jessa is pregnant. And Jessa is going to get tight as fukk that Adam won't be as happy for her as he was for Hannah.

If Jessa were to get pregnant, this is what would happen:
Jessa: WELL YOU WERE WITH HANNAH - fukk HANNAH
Adam: fukk Hannah!? I cannot just say fukk Hannah. What happened in the past happened in the past but *Jessa growls and walks away* it's special to me! Me. Jessa ok! It's special to-
Jessa: Adam I'm pregnant
Adam: Me. You're what? Pregnant. Stop fukkn around Jessa. That's not funny. Hannah's pregnant so now you're pregnant too. *Adams weird look*
Jessa: What do you think happens when two adults have sex Adam?
*Adam with a long stare*
Adam: Well what are you going to do?
Jessa: What am I-god fukk you Adam.
 

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No they're not. That was them realizing that it would never work. That's why at the end he went back home and Jessa had the smile on her face.

Yup. It started to hit her when he said "our baby" at the store. Hannah realized that it would never work and Adam realized it was really over. Imo, Adam would have went the distance

I also liked the nod to gentrification in there. Lena really going all out to close this show.
 

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Adam ain't going to be excited for shyt if Jessa is pregnant. And Jessa is going to get tight as fukk that Adam won't be as happy for her as he was for Hannah.

If Jessa were to get pregnant, this is what would happen:
Jessa: WELL YOU WERE WITH HANNAH - fukk HANNAH
Adam: fukk Hannah!? I cannot just say fukk Hannah. What happened in the past happened in the past but *Jessa growls and walks away* it's special to me! Me. Jessa ok! It's special to-
Jessa: Adam I'm pregnant
Adam: Me. You're what? Pregnant. Stop fukkn around Jessa. That's not funny. Hannah's pregnant so now you're pregnant too. *Adams weird look*
Jessa: What do you think happens when two adults have sex Adam?
*Adam with a long stare*
Adam: Well what are you going to do?
Jessa: What am I-god fukk you Adam.
Nah Hannah is done. That's why he had to test old waters. Now he knows that he doesn't want her. Adam and Jessa are gonna be permanent.

Funny thing is Adam wasn't the one ever thinking about Hannah. It was always Jessa who felt some sort of way about Hannah. That was the reason for their fights; her guilt. Jessa will forgive him b/c she always had her own issues to resolve with that situation. But I think Adam is all in at this point.
 

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Yup. It started to hit her when he said "our baby" at the store. Hannah realized that it would never work and Adam realized it was really over. Imo, Adam would have went the distance

I also liked the nod to gentrification in there. Lena really going all out to close this show.
I agree. I think she felt comfort in the help he offered especially after the Paul dude bushed her baby. But we all know she is way to selfish and self centered to take advice or listen to anyone. It wouldn't work with Adam or any other dude honestly. The only one she listens to is the gay dude. That's the only baby daddy she can handle b/c he literally thinks in the same matter she does.

I think it also dawned on Adam that the idea of actually marrying Hannah was just outlandish. You can see the fantasy he had built up fizzle right before his eyes. It's like he was living in the movie until reality slapped him in the face.
 

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Up until the last 2 minutes of the episode, I was about to kick this shyt to the curve, and it'd be crazy to quit on a show this late but I was close. Damn close.

The levels of white girl fantasy, lack of awareness about what gentrification actually is (white people moving to minority neighborhoods), narcissism, and white privilege had me in disbelief

First, the chances of a man leaving a woman who perfectly suits him (Adam and Jessa are both flawed in a lot of the same ways, and compliment eachother extremely well even though they're both batshyt crazy) for his ex who he literally hates deep down, evident by last seasons finale when he went into the rage about Hannah and why they didn't work, is small as hell. especially to raise another mans child just like that. Especially for a woman who doesn't look better and isn't better for him. It's just not going to happen realistically. No man would do that shyt. Like "Yeah, we never worked out, we slowed eachothers growth, we are pretty much totally incompatible and I'm at my most self destructive when we're together, but fukk it let me raise your child that you got from being irresponsible and reckless. What could go wrong? Ive Always hated how much you don't take accountability for your own actions, so let me help you do that one last time. Let me leave my entire life behind and a girl that I enjoy being around who looks better than you, encourages my dreams, has better sex, believes in me, motivates me, and at times can overlook her own life to help me figure out mine, Which is something you never did, for you .Let's be together!"

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Secondly, if you go around Brooklyn. And I mean truly go around Brooklyn. And you ask people what's wrong? They'll tell you the arrival of Midwestern white kids who raise the rent have taken the character out of Brooklyn. That's the number one thing that people would say, not that other bullshyt. The lady in the butcher shop or whatever lightly brushed on it, but even she wasn't direct enough. White people and when I say white people I don't mean the white people (some immigrants) who are true Brooklynites, not them. There are white people who are natives to the borough who helped build it that fee the effects of gentrification in the same ways that blacks and Latinos do. But let's keep it 100, these white people who move to Brooklyn to "find themselves", open stores that sell organic mayonise and invite their friends, are the reason Brooklyn is the way it is now. Nothing else.

Third, There's very little consistency with the characters right now. Jessa has shown for 6 seasons that she's a sociopath who lacks empathy. And she's also very direct. Says what she feels, when she feels it for the most part. Especially Evident in the fight last season with Adam where she didn't hesitate to up to anger to a level to match is. Now all of a sudden, she's this passive aggressive girl who won't tell Adam she's angry that he's leaving her for Hannah, and not only that she's not all of a sudden the girl that gonna go take out her anger by fukking some random guy at a bar. Not for herself or for selfish reasons but because she's so hurt about what Adam did.

thank god they cleaned that shyt up in the last 5 minutes. I was about to throw up.

Good season so far. And I'll be watching the rest.
 

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I agree. I think she felt comfort in the help he offered especially after the Paul dude bushed her baby. But we all know she is way to selfish and self centered to take advice or listen to anyone. It wouldn't work with Adam or any other dude honestly. The only one she listens to is the gay dude. That's the only baby daddy she can handle b/c he literally thinks in the same matter she does.

I think it also dawned on Adam that the idea of actually marrying Hannah was just outlandish. You can see the fantasy he had built up fizzle right before his eyes. It's like he was living in the movie until reality slapped him in the face.

I read that scene as him realizing she was done. I think he really could have been her husband. But the, had to test the old waters angle is real too. I think a lot of us have been there with an ex, wondering if things have changed or not. Sometimes you have to know for sure before you can truly move on. I actually thought it was dope how upfront he was with Jessa about it.
 

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Up until the last 2 minutes of the episode, I was about to kick this shyt to the curve, and it'd be crazy to quit on a show this late but I was close. Damn close.

The levels of white girl fantasy, lack of awareness about what gentrification actually is (white people moving to minority neighborhoods), narcissism, and white privilege had me in disbelief

First, the chances of a man leaving a woman who perfectly suits him (Adam and Jessa are both flawed in a lot of the same ways, and compliment eachother extremely well even though they're both batshyt crazy) for his ex who he literally hates deep down, evident by last seasons finale when he went into the rage about Hannah and why they didn't work, is small as hell. especially to raise another mans child just like that. Especially for a woman who doesn't look better and isn't better for him. It's just not going to happen realistically. No man would do that shyt. Like "Yeah, we never worked out, we slowed eachothers growth, we are pretty much totally incompatible and I'm at my most self destructive when we're together, but fukk it let me raise your child that you got from being irresponsible and reckless. What could go wrong? Ive Always hated how much you don't take accountability for your own actions, so let me help you do that one last time. Let me leave my entire life behind and a girl that I enjoy being around who looks better than you, encourages my dreams, has better sex, believes in me, motivates me, and at times can overlook her own life to help me figure out mine, Which is something you never did, for you .Let's be together!"

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Secondly, if you go around Brooklyn. And I mean truly go around Brooklyn. And you ask people what's wrong? They'll tell you the arrival of Midwestern white kids who raise the rent have taken the character out of Brooklyn. That's the number one thing that people would say, not that other bullshyt. The lady in the butcher shop or whatever lightly brushed on it, but even she wasn't direct enough. White people and when I say white people I don't mean the white people (some immigrants) who are true Brooklynites, not them. There are white people who are natives to the borough who helped build it that fee the effects of gentrification in the same ways that blacks and Latinos do. But let's keep it 100, these white people who move to Brooklyn to "find themselves", open stores that sell organic mayonise and invite their friends, are the reason Brooklyn is the way it is now. Nothing else.

Third, There's very little consistency with the characters right now. Jessa has shown for 6 seasons that she's a sociopath who lacks empathy. And she's also very direct. Says what she feels, when she feels it for the most part. Especially Evident in the fight last season with Adam where she didn't hesitate to up to anger to a level to match is. Now all of a sudden, she's this passive aggressive girl who won't tell Adam she's angry that he's leaving her for Hannah, and not only that she's not all of a sudden the girl that gonna go take out her anger by fukking some random guy at a bar. Not for herself or for selfish reasons but because she's so hurt about what Adam did.

thank god they cleaned that shyt up in the last 5 minutes. I was about to throw up.

Good season so far. And I'll be watching the rest.

Disagree about Adam leaving Jessa. Love is weird like that. Raising another mans child is extra but it's inline with Adams weirdness imo. Despite how perfect Jessa is for him, they haven't created the bond together that he did with Hannah, that's plainly evident in the film he made. And it's possible, that while having these feelings still inside him, he could never have the relationship with Jessa he had with Hannah.
 

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I read that scene as him realizing she was done. I think he really could have been her husband. But the, had to test the old waters angle is real too. I think a lot of us have been there with an ex, wondering if things have changed or not. Sometimes you have to know for sure before you can truly move on. I actually thought it was dope how upfront he was with Jessa about it.

Disagree about Adam leaving Jessa. Love is weird like that. Raising another mans child is extra but it's inline with Adams weirdness imo. Despite how perfect Jessa is for him, they haven't created the bond together that he did with Hannah, that's plainly evident in the film he made. And it's possible, that while having these feelings still inside him, he could never have the relationship with Jessa he had with Hannah.

Nah I don't think so. I just think Adam can be very impulsive, dramatic, passionate and emotional but at the end of the day he always does what's logical. He's the most logical character on the show. Yes he came across as genuine but he always does. When has Adam ever been fake or half-assed with anything. That's his character but dude doesn't make stupid decisions like that. Out of all the characters, except maybe Ray, he's the only one whose actually done something with himself and shown the most growth. Adam has kicked all his bad habit. This was just the last one.

And on top of that dude hasn't even thought about Hannah for 2 seasons. Seriously Jessa was the one caught up on Hannah. This "I have always loved Hannah" BS is pure impulse associated with his film. That was the beautiful thing about his pursuit of Jessa. It wasn't impulsive like all the times he got with or got back with Hannah.

I disagree with the bonds though. Adam is Jessa's friend and they understand each other. The way he came at her straight forward and the way she understood even though she was hurt showed that there was a deep connection there. What they have is beautiful. I think you're are associating baggage with a bond. Adam and Hannah don't have a bond. She never understood or cared to understand him. But they do have baggage though and sometimes you need closure on your baggage.

I read the scene as them both coming to the realization at the same time. Hannah is just a baby and Adam is a grown man. They are going to express their emotions differently especially given Adam's "hold it in until you explode" weird emotional range.

As a side note, the dude who plays Adam is an AMAZING actor. The way he plays Adam is honestly one of the best characters I've seen.
 
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