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Do y’all think the former players on the show (Rashad, Jennings, K-Mart) are primarily on the show because they need the money? Rashad complained about superstar players not creating enough opportunities for vets and K-Mart got quiet when Gil talked about generational wealth. Also saw online K-Mart pushed to get his child support lowered.
 
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lib123 said:
Do y’all think the former players on the show (Rashad, Jennings, K-Mart) are primarily on the show because they need the money? Rashad complained about superstar players not creating enough opportunities for vets and K-Mart got quiet when Gil talked about generational wealth. Also saw online K-Mart pushed to get his child support lowered.
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Rashad I'd say for sure. He didn't have any big contracts and only made 7.5 in the NBA. Half of that gone to taxes, agents and GMs and the like. Unless he was super smart with his money he didn't have fukk you money. Kenyon made over 100 and Jennings over 40. That's enough to live comfortably. I think it's more that nikkas is bored and need an outlet so this is fun for them.
 
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The fukked up part is at times I see the underlying logic Rashad is trying to argue, he's just too dumb to argue it. Like on the leadership argument I think the point he was trying to make is that someone can be a leader without being vocal but he didn't know how to explain his point. Instead it comes off as him saying that the best player is the only leader.

The worst example was when arguing he's more dominant between Jokic and Shaq. I think the point he was trying to make about Shaq is that Shaq forces the doubles and opens things up for teammates so even though he's not getting the assists he's the reason for his teammates eating while Jokic is getting the assists directly. But all he kept repeating is Shaq had 40 that's more dominant.
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Exactly, with the leadership thing... if he were to convey that guys like Draymond and Haslem were "leaders" in part because they had the buy-in from the best players (Steph and prime Wade), then i think that would better illustrate his point that your best player is still innately "the" leader, bc nobody is going to take a role player as seriously unless the star player does. Same with coach who doesn't have the support of the franchise player.

At least that's what i felt Rashad's argument should've been. But instead he was talkin about Russ is the best player on the Clips (over PG and Kawhi) and so that's why he's the leader... and i go from kinda seeing what he was tryna convey to being like.. wait what? lol And then the Miko digression just put a nail on the coffin.
 
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The Shaq vs Jokic stuff is interesting and i'm glad Gil made the point that while he feels Shaq would dominate in this era, that Jokic would dominate in Shaq's era too. I think one point that they all were kinda off-base on, was that Shaq would just destroy Jokic and have him in foul trouble in the first quarter off rip. In isolated one-on-one sure, but in the ebbs and flows of an NBA game with 8 other guys on the floor, double-teaming, zones, switches, and 3-refs who, to Gil's earlier point, don't call 75% of the coulda/woulda/shoulda fouls committed on Shaq... it's a bit more complicated than that, plus offensively Jokic is like Duncan 1-on-1. His passing is so good, that ppl almost underrate that dude can get buckets and draw all the ticky-tack fouls on defending bigs.
 
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The Shaq vs Jokic stuff is interesting and i'm glad Gil made the point that while he feels Shaq would dominate in this era, that Jokic would dominate in Shaq's era too. I think one point that they all were kinda off-base on, was that Shaq would just destroy Jokic and have him in foul trouble in the first quarter off rip. In isolated one-on-one sure, but in the ebbs and flows of an NBA game with 8 other guys on the floor, double-teaming, zones, switches, and 3-refs who, to Gil's earlier point, don't call 75% of the coulda/woulda/shoulda fouls committed on Shaq... it's a bit more complicated than that, plus offensively Jokic is like Duncan 1-on-1. His passing is so good, that ppl almost underrate that dude can get buckets and draw all the ticky-tack fouls on defending bigs.
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That's such a complicated situation with Jokic. He'd obviously be great in any era. But I think one thing that benefits him is the days of the big center are over. So he's able to just bully damn near every "center" in the league. I think he can be someone contained in the post going against big physical defensive centers. The closest I've seen to Jokic struggling is against long strong defenders which there were plenty more of in Shaq's era. The other thing that helps is defensively he's not having to bang down low on defense which makes it easier to play long minutes in today's game.

I do agree with you about Shaq though in that it's a bit easier to get the ball out of post players hands so coaches have to be more creative getting them the ball. Shaq was great at positioning himself off ball and was athletic enough that a lot of times if teams try to front him in the post the offense could just throw the ball up for him for an oop. I think Shaq wouldn't be able to carry as much weight as he did when he played or he'd be complete food on D.

Basically I'm not on either side of the argument. There are great arguments supporting both. I was just frustrated Rashad was not able to make any kind of coherent points to foster the argument.
 
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I wonder why he made some of his older interviews when it was No Chill Gil private?
 
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Elim Garak said:
I like Miko but I don't think she fits this podcast tbh.
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Starting to think the same. Kenyon was about to get into watching Kobe’s 81 point game live because they were playing the Raptors the next night. Mid story she just cuts him off to throw in she wouldn’t want to watch old Chicago games because people knew Bulls would win.
 
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Rashad I'd say for sure. He didn't have any big contracts and only made 7.5 in the NBA. Half of that gone to taxes, agents and GMs and the like. Unless he was super smart with his money he didn't have fukk you money. Kenyon made over 100 and Jennings over 40. That's enough to live comfortably. I think it's more that nikkas is bored and need an outlet so this is fun for them.
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