There was no reason to even bring him up fakkitsurprised that Jokic has not done that.
But yeah Giannis could put up Jokic numbers if the offense ran through him in a different way.
There was no reason to even bring him up fakkitsurprised that Jokic has not done that.
But yeah Giannis could put up Jokic numbers if the offense ran through him in a different way.
He’s better at making personnel decisions than Pat Riley has been post Heatles.
I’d take Embiid out of that list, other than that I agree with everything you said. Giannis was my MVP for 2023, and had him 3rd last year (Luka, then Shai)It's kinda cool but also unfortunate that we have about 5-6 generational talents in the league at the same time (Jokic, Giannis, SGA, Luka, Embiid*, and soon Wemby) who have/will continue to hinder each other's future "all-time" narratives. aka They're all right there as top 15-20 talents, but only so many MVPs, scoring titles, rings, first team selections, etc., to "validate" it.
Not even getting to someone like Anthony Davis who is everything people pretended Rasheed Wallace could be.. aka the perfect hybrid of Duncan and KG, but AD never had the durability or proper career decisions. He's one of the most talented pfs ever but missed his shot for at least a one-off mvp like Malone and Barkley were able to get.
*And yea at this point Embiid as kinda hindered his own self.
They also using this narrative to push for Joker's campaignYep. The online and analytical cacs have been on a crusade with dikk riding Jokic. You can see how they've been downplaying the team around to have the excuses in place for the next couple of years of them not winning anything.
I’d take Embiid out of that list, other than that I agree with everything you said. Giannis was my MVP for 2023, and had him 3rd last year (Luka, then Shai)
Exactly. They bring up how Jokic has never played with an all star, like Jamal Murray isn’t an all star caliber player who’s been their closer a lot of times. Like Aaron Gordon wasn’t the player who put them over the top when he got traded to them. Michael Porter Jr. is averaging 18 and 7 this season. In fact, these are players who average double digits for the Nuggets:Yep. The online and analytical cacs have been on a crusade with dikk riding Jokic. You can see how they've been downplaying the team around to have the excuses in place for the next couple of years of them not winning anything.