GGG vs Kell Brook September 10th R.I.P Kell Brook/Chocolatito-Cuadras & JSK-Kamegai 2

[Master Teacher]

Brook winning the fight bruh?

Brook ain't got the skills to go 12 rounds without getting smacked in his mouth bruh, i can remember Senchenko had him on queer street for a couple of seconds

The same guy he beat in 4 rounds right. Kell Brook is too big for welterweight, weight cut has to affect the water in his brain so he probably is easy to stun at welterweight. He will be very strong at 160, I can tell by his build, he will be faster and stronger than he is at 147. I know it's MMA, but Anthony Johnson was getting KO'd at welterweight, he's moved up two weight classes and has yet to be KO'd, because he's not drained

They said the same thing when I said Lebron was gonna beat the warriors. You've got to have vision. GGG only chance of winning is a one punch KO, which I doubt will happen. Brook is not only the most skilled person GGG has fought, he is the toughest physically and mentally. He can stand up to GGG's power, which is overrated to me.

Look at how Canelo did Kirkland, you would think he was a beast like GGG to until you put me in there with somebody with a pulse.

Cotto ran through Gaele just like GGG if not even better lmao these are the types of bums GGG been fighting.

Kell Brook could get a big fight and at 147 and 154 against Canelo if he wanted. He picked GGG because he knows he can beat him, GGG is slow as fukk, you will see how slow when they fight.

after I'm proven right, I will forgive you for your ignorance.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Tom Loeffler's side of the negotiations:

- Thought they were going to be able to make the fight vs. Eubank.
- When Hearn told him the fight wasn't going to be able to get made, Hearn asked if he could present the fight to Brook, he said yes.
- They literally took Eubank's name off the contract, changed it to Brook's and Brook signed the same contract Eubank's was offered.
- Got deja vu, felt like the JCC fight. Thought that fight was going to get made and Arum kept telling him it would get done soon, but fizzled at the end.
- Tried to make fights with Froch, Sturm, and Martinez at one point and the other side never wanted to make a deal.
- Offered both BJS and Eubank career high paydays - at least double their previous high payday - and neither took the fight. And both fighters were going to make double what GGG's highest payday has been
- Actually gave Frank Warren a solution to get BJS the money he wanted (which he felt was too much) and BJS still turned the fight down.
- Doesn't know (or wouldn't say) if Eubank Sr. was the reason the fight fell through. Never talked with him during negotiations. Only has talked with Sr. at the Whyte fight and Sr. expressed interest in wanting to fight GGG.
- Hearn expects tickets for the fight to be sold out in under an hour.
- They took the fight because it was the only big name and event fight available at the moment.
- When people see GGG and Brook next to each other at the first press conference (Thursday) they will be surprised by the similarity in size of the two fighters. GGG walks around at 172-174. Hearn has told him Brook's walking around weight is more than that.
- Feels like he is one of the easiest promoters to work with. His job is to get GGG fights and if someone really wants to fight GGG they will get the fight (assuming demand, financials, etc). If a fighter says they want GGG and a fight cannot be made, it isn't because of their side, they basically agree to anything.
- Believes to make a Jacobs fight it might have to be on PPV, due to the economics.
- GGG wants to fight 4 times a year, they want to get another fight in before the end of the year, so it is 3 times this year. Realistically trying to do bigger events and secure bigger arenas and HBO dates, 3 times a year is more likely.
- They will make the Canelo fight as soon as possible. If it needs to be 9/17, so be it.
- Possible that Gilberto Ramirez fight could be made next year. He and Arum discuss it every so often.
- GGG is a spokesperson for the World Expo in Kahzakstan, so he would like to fight in his home country in front of 38k fans.
- Best plan for GGG going forward is to fight Dec. 2016, June 2017 (possible Kahzakstan), September 2017 (Canelo). Maybe a fight early 2017.
- Pushing HBO hard for Chocolatito to get his own HBO headlining date. Rumors of Chocolatito vs. Cuadras on own card this year.
- Thinks eventually a fight at 168 is possible, but no plans for a full time move to 168 because that is not his natural weight class.
- Willing to fight anyone at 168 that is willing to fight him, but so far no one has agreed. DeGale has not been willing, Froch and JCC both turned down fights. Believes Ramirez may agree when the time comes.
- Possible that they try to make the Eubank fight in December. Willing to do another fight in the UK if Eubank will agree.
- Fight in Texas? Possible. Willing to fight Canelo in Dallas or Gilberto Ramirez in San Antonio.

 

[Dushane Hill]

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Oh it turns out Kell Shook has been a natural MW all this time and has just been cutting weight?

Gotcha

 

[Tuneday]

97g fighting Carson Jones' leftovers. This fraud still has stans? My lord!

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Oh it turns out Kell Shook has been a natural MW all this time and has just been cutting weight?

Gotcha

He has been a heavy kebab eating for a good solid years!!! So I believe it.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Oh it turns out Kell Shook has been a natural MW all this time and has just been cutting weight?

Gotcha

I'm not trying to start a campaign trying to deny the fact that Brook is moving up 2 weight classes and it isn't important, because it is, but just like I said when Brook took the fight, I like his confidence. He doesn't want any excuses and he isn't having it when he talks about the weight. He is convinced that he walks around at around the same weight as GGG and making WW is tough and his natural weight class is Jr. MW or as a small MW. He deserves credit for being confident, prideful, and challenging himself. Now it all may be done foolishly and he will realize that the guy he is facing is used to 160 lb fights and has earned the spot as best in the division. Despite Brook's confidence and willingness to not make weight a deal, I don't think it makes the fight more meaningful if GGG were to win, but Brook deserves credit. He is confident in his abilities. More power to him.

 

[Newzz]

I'm not trying to start a campaign trying to deny the fact that Brook is moving up 2 weight classes and it isn't important, because it is, but just like I said when Brook took the fight, I like his confidence. He doesn't want any excuses and he isn't having it when he talks about the weight. He is convinced that he walks around at around the same weight as GGG and making WW is tough and his natural weight class is Jr. MW or as a small MW. He deserves credit for being confident, prideful, and challenging himself. Now it all may be done foolishly and he will realize that the guy he is facing is used to 160 lb fights and has earned the spot as best in the division. Despite Brook's confidence and willingness to not make weight a deal, I don't think it makes the fight more meaningful if GGG were to win, but Brook deserves credit. He is confident in his abilities. More power to him.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Right there with ya breh. That is why I try to add the caveat that just because Kell is confident doesn't mean GGG all of a sudden gets the credit. What I like is that Kell seems to have a no excuses confidence and legitimately wants the fight because he is confident of himself, not just for the money. Now it could go badly, which is what most expect, but I still respect the fact that Kell isn't having it. Usually when guys move up like this I feel like they start priming the pump for excuses, stating why they are at a disadvantage and how they believe they can overcome it. Kell is like "what disadvantages?" and believes he is every bit an equal in this fight. I commend him for his confidence...it may be stupid confidence, but I still want to acknowledge his opinion of his talents.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

This should be a counter meme for women wanting equal rights to Men!!!!!!

 

[Newzz]

Right there with ya breh. That is why I try to add the caveat that just because Kell is confident doesn't mean GGG all of a sudden gets the credit. What I like is that Kell seems to have a no excuses confidence and legitimately wants the fight because he is confident of himself, not just for the money. Now it could go badly, which is what most expect, but I still respect the fact that Kell isn't having it. Usually when guys move up like this I feel like they start priming the pump for excuses, stating why they are at a disadvantage and how they believe they can overcome it. Kell is like "what disadvantages?" and believes he is every bit an equal in this fight. I commend him for his confidence...it may be stupid confidence, but I still want to acknowledge his opinion of his talents.

When's the last time a Boxer moved up 2 weight divisons and won as the underdog?


He can have confidence, Khan had a lot of confidence too, but it still ended the way we figured:

Don't forget, they have to sell the fight. Brook is supposed to be supremely confident so that his fans tune in, but he's gonna end up KO victim #23 in a row

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

When's the last time a Boxer moved up 2 weight divisons and won as the underdog?


He can have confidence, Khan had a lot of confidence too, but it still ended the way we figured:

Don't forget, they have to sell the fight. Brook is supposed to be supremely confident so that his fans tune in, but he's gonna end up KO victim #23 in a row

I feel ya. Gonna be one of those fights like Canelo-Khan, which is why they made it. You know what will happen 99.9999% of the time, but it is interesting. We knew Canelo was gonna decapitate Khan, but because Khan was a well known name and marketable it definitely felt more interesting than Canelo fighting a no name 154 lb'er. This fight feels the same. The options for opponents, sans Eubank, Loeffler admitted weren't real good...is a fight vs. Brook or a no name 160 lb fighter more interesting? There would be critics either way, but at least it is interesting in an entertainment value way.

Loeffler went on to say he would like to negotiate for a Jacobs fight, but because of the issues involved, GGG has to beat Brook, Jacobs has to beat Mora, getting both camps to agree being on HBO and get a reservation for a NY arena in December, plus potentially secure PPV for the deal he felt December was a little tight to get all that done...especially since it probably wouldn't get made until the mandatory was ordered, which hasn't been done. Loeffler also mentioned that it isn't out of reach to target 2017 for a Ramirez fight...but Arum wants Ramirez to have another fight or two and rehab his hand injury.

Best case scenario IMO is the UK gets hyped over GGG and Brook, creates some buzz over GGG and Eubank Jr. realizes that he can't get that payday or notoriety anywhere else, feels some heat from the media and his UK fans, and straightens his Dad out and we see GGG vs. Eubank in December. Loeffler seemed confident that a Eubank fight could potentially happen down the road, he was very politically correct not to offend BJS, but it seemed like he didn't have much confidence in BJS agreeing to fight GGG.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

@GREENandYELLOW props to your stanning you're at newzz AB levels right now

 

[Newzz]

I feel ya. Gonna be one of those fights like Canelo-Khan, which is why they made it. You know what will happen 99.9999% of the time, but it is interesting. We knew Canelo was gonna decapitate Khan, but because Khan was a well known name and marketable it definitely felt more interesting than Canelo fighting a no name 154 lb'er. This fight feels the same. The options for opponents, sans Eubank, Loeffler admitted weren't real good...is a fight vs. Brook or a no name 160 lb fighter more interesting? There would be critics either way, but at least it is interesting in an entertainment value way.

Loeffler went on to say he would like to negotiate for a Jacobs fight, but because of the issues involved, GGG has to beat Brook, Jacobs has to beat Mora, getting both camps to agree being on HBO and get a reservation for a NY arena in December, plus potentially secure PPV for the deal he felt December was a little tight to get all that done...especially since it probably wouldn't get made until the mandatory was ordered, which hasn't been done. Loeffler also mentioned that it isn't out of reach to target 2017 for a Ramirez fight...but Arum wants Ramirez to have another fight or two and rehab his hand injury.

Best case scenario IMO is the UK gets hyped over GGG and Brook, creates some buzz over GGG and Eubank Jr. realizes that he can't get that payday or notoriety anywhere else, feels some heat from the media and his UK fans, and straightens his Dad out and we see GGG vs. Eubank in December. Loeffler seemed confident that a Eubank fight could potentially happen down the road, he was very politically correct not to offend BJS, but it seemed like he didn't have much confidence in BJS agreeing to fight GGG.

I agree with everything

 

[theflyest]

I'm not trying to start a campaign trying to deny the fact that Brook is moving up 2 weight classes and it isn't important, because it is, but just like I said when Brook took the fight, I like his confidence. He doesn't want any excuses and he isn't having it when he talks about the weight. He is convinced that he walks around at around the same weight as GGG and making WW is tough and his natural weight class is Jr. MW or as a small MW. He deserves credit for being confident, prideful, and challenging himself. Now it all may be done foolishly and he will realize that the guy he is facing is used to 160 lb fights and has earned the spot as best in the division. Despite Brook's confidence and willingness to not make weight a deal, I don't think it makes the fight more meaningful if GGG were to win, but Brook deserves credit. He is confident in his abilities. More power to him.

He's selling the fight, which is what your suppose to do.

Before the fight:

"I walk around at 180 & struggle to make the MW limit."

After the fight:

"I'm moving back down."

That's the game. You nyggas should know by now.