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What’s that have to do with the days of the week though?:jbhmm:

Even then how is what you’re asserting, in essence, any different than what I initially said in respect to “how the 7 days of the week calculated” :patrice:

The calendar that we know today is based upon Julius Caesar (Julian calendar). Pope Gregory's crew revamped it a little, but it is still the same calendar with the same days and months (Gregorian calendar).

I assume that you are discussing some completely different issue that has some ecumenical basis, but I am not sure yet. :jbhmm:
 

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When people say judgement, what do y'all mean. Is it like a gang of natural disasters happening all at once that's gonna wipe us all out, or are the devils hounds gonna be running around rounding up "sinners" .

And when jesus or whoever "comes back" where are they coming from, and how are they gonna arrive.

And op do you feel like you're gonna be chosen to go to "heaven" ..if so why? Have you been a perfect human being your whole life, or is it because you believe and worship.

Which brings me to my final question, should a just and good person spend eternity burning in hell fire simply because they didn't "believe, and spend their life worshipping".

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You’re looking at “just” by your standards. The 10 commandments are the moral law, which none of us can live up to. So Yahusha died at the steak and was sacrificed to fulfill the law (By living a perfect sinless law) and as a new covenant that whoever believe and repent can be saved.

Because no human has ever kept the moral law, we are all deserving of Gods wrath. In court when a person commits a crime, they are judge based on that crime they are guilty of committing and not based on their works. You may say “but I live good for the most part”, but if you rape someone, how are you viewed if it’s found out 30 years later?

There is no statute of limitations on Gods eyes. You must repent and turn away from sin. You may say a God that does that is such and such, but you will still have to face him on judgement day and account for every word uttered as we all will (I’m guilty of posting nonsense and getting in foolish arguments on this forum). You may laugh and scoff now because you may be young and feel invincible.


27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Hebrews 9:27-28
 

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The calendar that we know today is based upon Julius Caesar (Julian calendar). Pope Gregory's crew revamped it a little, but it is still the same calendar with the same days and months (Gregorian calendar).

I assume that you are discussing some completely different issue that has some ecumenical basis, but I am not sure yet. :jbhmm:

Let me simplify it, I apologize if I might sound confusing -


If Constantine doesnt decree Sunday the first day of the week how do we know what is the last or "seventh" ?
 

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Let me simplify it, I apologize if I might sound confusing -


If Constantine doesnt decree Sunday the first day of the week how do we know what is the last or "seventh" ?
How’d you get aware bro? I’m trying to figure out work in Babylon and aligning with the Sabbath.
 
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Let me simplify it, I apologize if I might sound confusing -


If Constantine doesnt decree Sunday the first day of the week how do we know what is the last or "seventh" ?

So anyway here is something else we can thank the Egyptians for. The Julian calendar is actually from the Egyptians.

Julian calendar | History & Difference from Gregorian Calendar

With that said, I think I understand what you are finally asserting however I would point out that the Romans had already started observing the 7 day week with Sunday as the first day before the switch was made official by Constantine. So Constantine just made it permanent.

This is an interesting topic, because the Babylonians and Jews also both recognized the 7 day week.
 

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So anyway here is something else we can thank the Egyptians for. The Julian calendar is actually from the Egyptians.

Julian calendar | History & Difference from Gregorian Calendar

With that said, I think I understand what you are finally asserting however I would point out that the Romans had already started observing the 7 day week with Sunday as the first day before the switch was made official by Constantine. So Constantine just made it permanent.

This is an interesting topic, because the Babylonians and Jews also both recognized the 7 day week.
So you are saying the sabbath was recognized on Saturday as the seventh day of the week dating back before Constantine to even ancient Egypt and Babylon?

you have any sources for that? :jbhmm:
 
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So you are saying the sabbath was recognized on Saturday as the seventh day of the week dating back before Constantine to even ancient Egypt and Babylon?

you have any sources for that? :jbhmm:

I stated that the Sabbath is the 7th day of the week, which is Saturday. You stated that Constantine set the days of the week even though the Romans had ben switching from the 8 day week to the 7 day week long before Constantine. Here is more discussion on the subject. I don't know how credible the writers are.

Why Are There Seven Days in a Week?
The Origin of the Jewish Week | Nature
1939PA.....47..175C Page 175
 

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I stated that the Sabbath is the 7th day of the week, which is Saturday. You stated that Constantine set the days of the week even though the Romans had ben switching from the 8 day week to the 7 day week long before Constantine. Here is more discussion on the subject. I don't know how credible the writers are.

Why Are There Seven Days in a Week?
The Origin of the Jewish Week | Nature
1939PA.....47..175C Page 175
From the link you gave -

" Now, whatever may be the ultimate solution of the problem of the origin and diffusion of the seven-day week, this theory rests partly on uncertain assumptions, partly on undoubted blunders. It is notorious that several Semitic nations, not to speak of the Peruvians, had a seven-day week without planetary names; so that Mr. Proctor's fundamental assumption begs the whole question. Then, again, it is the opinion of so great an authority as Lepsius that the Egyptians had no seven-day week, but divided the month into three decades. The passage of Dion Cassius from which the contrary opinion is drawn is certainly not decisive for ancient Egyptian usage, and Mr. Proctor seems to quote his author at second hand; for he asserts, in flat contradiction to Dion, that when the latter wrote, neither Greeks nor Romans used the week. For the supposition that Saturn was the supreme god of the Egyptians, not a shadow of proof is offered, while what is said of the Assyrian Saturn is directly in the teeth of the most recent researches. If Mr. Proctor had read Schrader's essay on the Babylonian origin of the week, he would have known that Adar or Saturn is quite distinct from the supreme god Asur. Thus, apart from the late and doubtful testimony of Dion, Mr. Proctor has no other evidence for his Egyptian theory of the week than that which he derives from the presumed non-existence of the Sabbath among the Hebrews before they entered Egypt. But the seven-day week appears in the narrative of the flood, which is certainly not an Egyptian legend. I say nothing of numerous minor inaccuracies in Mr. Proctor's paper, but repeat that the point on which new light requires to be thrown is whether it can be made out that the names of the seven days are as old as the week itself. This again seems to depend partly on the question whether the division of the day into twenty-four hours is older than the week, and partly on what can be determined as to early Egyptian and Chaldean subdivisions of the month. The Egyptians had a day of twenty-four hours, but had they a week? The Chaldeans may have had the week, but they seem to have divided the day (including the night) into twelve hours. Perhaps, however, it ought to be borne in mind that Dion gives another way of accounting for the names of the day, depending not on the division of the day into hours, but on the analogy of musical harmony . The Jewish Sabbath can contribute little to the argument unless one is prepared with Lagarde to maintain that Shabbat is a name of Saturn."

^Makes my point essentially in saying there is no evidence for the Shabbat to be on Saturday outside of historical assumptions and it being connected to Constantine's decree for Sunday to be the first day of the week

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1939PA.....47..175C Page 175

^ This link again supports my claim by stating although there might have been a 7-day week before Constantine the actual order of the days were different with Saturday being the first and Friday being the last in some cases.

Some sources to back my claims-
These . . . eventually led Jewish rabbis to call Saturn “Shabbti,” “the star of the Sabbath.” It was not until the first century of our era, when the planetary week had become an established institution, that the Jewish Sabbath seems always to have corresponded to Saturn’s Day [Saturday]. Rest Days, p.244 by Hutton Webster

This planetary week was paganism’s counterfeit of the true, Biblical week instituted by the Creator in the beginning of earth’s history. In the counterfeit week employed in ancient paganism “the venerable day of the Sun” was esteemed by the heathen above the other six days because it was regarded as sacred to the Sun, the chief of the planetary deities . . . Just as the true Sabbath is inseparably linked with the Biblical week, so the false Sabbath of pagan origin needed a weekly cycle. Thus we have found that the planetary week of paganism is Sunday’s twin sister, and that the two counterfeit institutions were linked together … Odom, op. cit., p. 243-244, emphasis supplied.

“The long-term effect was that ‘Easter Sunday’ entered the Christian paradigm as ‘The Day of Christ’s Resurrection.’ The corollary to this realignment of time calculation was that the day preceding Easter Sunday, Saturday, became forever after the [perceived] ‘True [seventh-day] Bible Sabbath.’ This is the true significance of Constantine’s ‘Sunday law’ and it laid the foundation for the modern assumption that a continuous weekly cycle has always existed.” eLaine Vornholt & Laura Lee Vorholt-Jones, Calendar Fraud, “Biblical Calendar Outlawed.”
 
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Galatians 3:1-5

1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.

5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
 
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Get right with God (Yahuah[Father]/ Yahusha [Son]). We are in very uncertain times and judgement is coming upon the nations. There is also in the works a day of mandatory worship (Sunday Law, which violates Sabbath day keeping) coming to combat “climmate change”, but these are actually the judgements . Be blessed guys.
:huhldup:Mental health is real
 
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