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James Carville: It’s Time for a Daring Political Maneuver, Democrats

Feb. 25, 2025
By James Carville

Mr. Carville is a veteran of Democratic presidential campaigns, including Bill Clinton’s in 1992, and a consultant to American Bridge, a Democratic super PAC.

The Republican Party is all too often effective at campaigning and winning elections, but there’s another fact about it that a lot of Americans forget: The Republican Party flat out sucks at governing. Even Tucker Carlson agrees with this. For all the huffing and puffing on the campaign trail in 2016, the first Trump administration largely amounted to tax cuts for the wealthy, 500 miles of a border wall and a destructive pandemic gone viral. George W. Bush got us into a harebrained war in Iraq and then tried to privatize Social Security while letting our financial system drive smack into the Great Recession. And George H.W. Bush governed his way into a one-term presidency because of the economy.

For Round 2 in office, instead of prioritizing the problems he campaigned on — public safety, immigration and the border and, most of all, the economy — President Trump is hellbent on dismantling the federal government. To accomplish this, he has put his faith in the most incompetent cabinet in modern history: a health and human services secretary who is already targeting federal vaccination efforts and dumped a bear carcass in Central Park as a fun prank at age 60, a director of national intelligence who was devoted to an allegedly abusive yoga-centered cult, a WWE tyc00n turned head of Department of Education and a former cable news talking head as defense secretary. Which will result in one clear thing: disorder. There will probably be more enormous tax cuts for the wealthy and Medicaid cuts hitting a lot of other people, but there is nothing the American public despises more than disorder and a broken economy.

And there’s nothing Democrats can legitimately do to stop it, even if we wanted to.

With no clear leader to voice our opposition and no control in any branch of government, it’s time for Democrats to embark on the most daring political maneuver in the history of our party: roll over and play dead. Allow the Republicans to crumble beneath their own weight and make the American people miss us. Only until the Trump administration has spiraled into the low 40s or high 30s in public approval polling percentages should we make like a pack of hyenas and go for the jugular. Until then, I’m calling for a strategic political retreat.

The Army has a term for this: tactical pause.
It’s a vision move — get out of the hour-to-hour, day-to-day combat where one side (ours) is largely playing defense and struggling to defend politically charged positions (like explaining D.E.I. or persuading voters to care about foreign aid) and take time to regroup, look forward and make decisions about where we want to get to over the next two years. I don’t think a lot of Americans are waiting around for us to use the same old arguments and same old language to pile on Donald Trump. They’re tired of it, and our Democratic voters are tired of watching us moan and groan to cover up our impotency out of power. They want us to be smarter than that.

Our first major test in the art of strategic retreat comes in a few weeks, as the Trump administration must get a budget passed that raises the debt ceiling. There are deep internal Republican divides over the budget: Republicans don’t know what they want to include, they don’t agree on an agenda, and they do not have a clear path forward. Mr. Trump has asked for an abolishment of the debt ceiling. The speaker of the House, his close ally, has yet to definitively support him on it.

Already, many Democrats across the party are itching at their seams for a showdown. Instead of gearing up to fight them — as we love to do — the most radical thing we can do is nothing at all. Let the Republicans disagree with themselves publicly. Do not offer a single vote. Do not insert yourself into the discourse. Do not throw a monkey wrench into the equation. Simply step away and let ’em flirt with a default. Just when they’ve pushed themselves to the brink and it appears they could collapse the global economy, come in and save the day. Be the competent party and not the chaos party. House Democrats know this. It’s time for everyone in our party, including the darlings who want to run in 2028, to understand this as well. You won’t win or achieve anything meaningful going toe to toe with the Trump administration right now.

This equation must be applied for the remainder of this year. Let the Republicans push for their tax cuts, their Medicaid cuts, their food stamp cuts. Give them all the rope they need. Then let dysfunction paralyze their House caucus and rupture their tiny majority. Let them reveal themselves as incapable of governing and, at the right moment, start making a coordinated, consistent argument about the need to protect Medicare, Medicaid, worker benefits and middle-class pocketbooks. Let the Republicans crumble, let the American people see it, and wait until they need us to offer our support.

It’s a wiser approach than we pursued in the first Trump administration, when Democrats tried and failed at the art of resistance politics
. We voiced outrage on social issue after social issue. We spun ourselves up in a tizzy over an investigation into Russia. We fought Mr. Trump at every corner, on every issue imaginable and muddied up our message in an unwinnable war. We were saved only by his lousy governing and a lot of effort on our side finding good candidates to run for the House and Senate in 2018. Sometimes the most powerful thing we can do is retreat on the immediate battlefield — and advance in another direction.

It won’t take long. Public support for this administration will fall through the floorboard. It’s already happening. Just over a month in, the president’s approval has already sunk underwater in two new polls. The people did not vote for the Department of Education to be obliterated; they voted for lower prices for eggs and milk. Democrats, let the Republicans’ own undertow drag them away.

At this rate, the Trump honeymoon will be over, best case, by Memorial Day but more likely in the next 30 days. And in November 2025, we start turning the tide with what will be remembered as one of the most important elections in recent years: the Virginia governor’s race. From tax enforcers to rocket scientists, bank regulators and essential workers — the Trump administration is hellbent on drastically firing the federal work force, despite the fact that federal civilian employees account for just 3 percent of the federal budget. These workers are highly concentrated in Virginia, home to around 144,000 civilian federal employees. It looks set to be a resounding Republican defeat. This will be the first moment when we can take the offensive back and begin our crusade again.

Half a century ago, Muhammad Ali cemented himself as the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time not by punching his way to glory but by mastering the art of the strategic retreat. Facing George Foreman, who was rolling off 37 knockouts and 40 wins, Ali deployed the famous rope-a-dope strategy, retreating to the ropes of the ring, evading punches right and left, absorbing small jabs, until Foreman’s battery was depleted — and in Round 8 deployed a decisive knockout blow.

It’s Round 1. Let’s rope-a-dope, Dems.







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James Carville: It’s Time for a Daring Political Maneuver, Democrats

Feb. 25, 2025
By James Carville

Mr. Carville is a veteran of Democratic presidential campaigns, including Bill Clinton’s in 1992, and a consultant to American Bridge, a Democratic super PAC.

The Republican Party is all too often effective at campaigning and winning elections, but there’s another fact about it that a lot of Americans forget: The Republican Party flat out sucks at governing. Even Tucker Carlson agrees with this. For all the huffing and puffing on the campaign trail in 2016, the first Trump administration largely amounted to tax cuts for the wealthy, 500 miles of a border wall and a destructive pandemic gone viral. George W. Bush got us into a harebrained war in Iraq and then tried to privatize Social Security while letting our financial system drive smack into the Great Recession. And George H.W. Bush governed his way into a one-term presidency because of the economy.

For Round 2 in office, instead of prioritizing the problems he campaigned on — public safety, immigration and the border and, most of all, the economy — President Trump is hellbent on dismantling the federal government. To accomplish this, he has put his faith in the most incompetent cabinet in modern history: a health and human services secretary who is already targeting federal vaccination efforts and dumped a bear carcass in Central Park as a fun prank at age 60, a director of national intelligence who was devoted to an allegedly abusive yoga-centered cult, a WWE tyc00n turned head of Department of Education and a former cable news talking head as defense secretary. Which will result in one clear thing: disorder. There will probably be more enormous tax cuts for the wealthy and Medicaid cuts hitting a lot of other people, but there is nothing the American public despises more than disorder and a broken economy.

And there’s nothing Democrats can legitimately do to stop it, even if we wanted to.

With no clear leader to voice our opposition and no control in any branch of government, it’s time for Democrats to embark on the most daring political maneuver in the history of our party: roll over and play dead. Allow the Republicans to crumble beneath their own weight and make the American people miss us. Only until the Trump administration has spiraled into the low 40s or high 30s in public approval polling percentages should we make like a pack of hyenas and go for the jugular. Until then, I’m calling for a strategic political retreat.

The Army has a term for this: tactical pause.
It’s a vision move — get out of the hour-to-hour, day-to-day combat where one side (ours) is largely playing defense and struggling to defend politically charged positions (like explaining D.E.I. or persuading voters to care about foreign aid) and take time to regroup, look forward and make decisions about where we want to get to over the next two years. I don’t think a lot of Americans are waiting around for us to use the same old arguments and same old language to pile on Donald Trump. They’re tired of it, and our Democratic voters are tired of watching us moan and groan to cover up our impotency out of power. They want us to be smarter than that.

Our first major test in the art of strategic retreat comes in a few weeks, as the Trump administration must get a budget passed that raises the debt ceiling. There are deep internal Republican divides over the budget: Republicans don’t know what they want to include, they don’t agree on an agenda, and they do not have a clear path forward. Mr. Trump has asked for an abolishment of the debt ceiling. The speaker of the House, his close ally, has yet to definitively support him on it.

Already, many Democrats across the party are itching at their seams for a showdown. Instead of gearing up to fight them — as we love to do — the most radical thing we can do is nothing at all. Let the Republicans disagree with themselves publicly. Do not offer a single vote. Do not insert yourself into the discourse. Do not throw a monkey wrench into the equation. Simply step away and let ’em flirt with a default. Just when they’ve pushed themselves to the brink and it appears they could collapse the global economy, come in and save the day. Be the competent party and not the chaos party. House Democrats know this. It’s time for everyone in our party, including the darlings who want to run in 2028, to understand this as well. You won’t win or achieve anything meaningful going toe to toe with the Trump administration right now.

This equation must be applied for the remainder of this year. Let the Republicans push for their tax cuts, their Medicaid cuts, their food stamp cuts. Give them all the rope they need. Then let dysfunction paralyze their House caucus and rupture their tiny majority. Let them reveal themselves as incapable of governing and, at the right moment, start making a coordinated, consistent argument about the need to protect Medicare, Medicaid, worker benefits and middle-class pocketbooks. Let the Republicans crumble, let the American people see it, and wait until they need us to offer our support.

It’s a wiser approach than we pursued in the first Trump administration, when Democrats tried and failed at the art of resistance politics
. We voiced outrage on social issue after social issue. We spun ourselves up in a tizzy over an investigation into Russia. We fought Mr. Trump at every corner, on every issue imaginable and muddied up our message in an unwinnable war. We were saved only by his lousy governing and a lot of effort on our side finding good candidates to run for the House and Senate in 2018. Sometimes the most powerful thing we can do is retreat on the immediate battlefield — and advance in another direction.

It won’t take long. Public support for this administration will fall through the floorboard. It’s already happening. Just over a month in, the president’s approval has already sunk underwater in two new polls. The people did not vote for the Department of Education to be obliterated; they voted for lower prices for eggs and milk. Democrats, let the Republicans’ own undertow drag them away.

At this rate, the Trump honeymoon will be over, best case, by Memorial Day but more likely in the next 30 days. And in November 2025, we start turning the tide with what will be remembered as one of the most important elections in recent years: the Virginia governor’s race. From tax enforcers to rocket scientists, bank regulators and essential workers — the Trump administration is hellbent on drastically firing the federal work force, despite the fact that federal civilian employees account for just 3 percent of the federal budget. These workers are highly concentrated in Virginia, home to around 144,000 civilian federal employees. It looks set to be a resounding Republican defeat. This will be the first moment when we can take the offensive back and begin our crusade again.

Half a century ago, Muhammad Ali cemented himself as the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time not by punching his way to glory but by mastering the art of the strategic retreat. Facing George Foreman, who was rolling off 37 knockouts and 40 wins, Ali deployed the famous rope-a-dope strategy, retreating to the ropes of the ring, evading punches right and left, absorbing small jabs, until Foreman’s battery was depleted — and in Round 8 deployed a decisive knockout blow.

It’s Round 1. Let’s rope-a-dope, Dems.







@Black Magisterialness @the cac mamba @voiture @Creflo ½ Dollar @invalid @Pressure @wire28 @ADevilYouKhow @88m3 @MeachTheMonster @Wargames @Tair @Da_Eggman @Mister Terrific
Stop cross posting, but I see your point. I don't know if a necessarily agree on it though. This is the time for a leader. Maybe let them kill themselves for a little longer, but now is the time to start the resistance. Maybe it comes from the grassroots. We can't stay quiet for much longer. Something needs to be done. The time is now, though, I'll admit, maybe we let them hang themselves for a little longer.
 

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:hamster: I enjoyed this article, though some of the comments were :whoo: and perhaps rightly thought calling what we're seeing a doctrine was too much.

A selected few:
It is undoubtedly true that Trump’s approach to foreign affairs is characterised by transactionalism, financialisation and the jettisoning of soft power. And it is true that the chaos and incoherence that Trump brings is not a bug but a feature. However, characteristics by themselves, no matter how consistently applied, do not a “doctrine” make.

There is no Trump doctrine. Not in the normal sense of the word. Rather, it is probably more correct to say that Trump enjoys the mayhem and within the flux and uncertainty that he creates, Trump seeks to achieve his goals. And these goals are personal aggrandisement, personal enrichment, the smiting of his enemies and a desire to destroy the world order run by the elites that despise him and whom he despises. All base instinct, avarice, nihilism and spite.

Trump simply wants to return to a world run by major powers - the US, Russia and China - all fronted by “great men of history” carving the planet up as they see fit. Capricious, unaccountable and all-powerful.

These fundamental characteristics of Trump have always been there …. it was just that during his first term the last vestiges of the old guard remained and prevented the worst of Trump’s impulses being enacted. That is all gone now and Trump is now able to fulfil all his child-like fantasies of power. He now has a complete free reign, his urges and fancies unfettered …. his ambitions unconstrained.

The decoupling of the US and Europe has been long foretold. Trump is just an accelerant, careless enough to say the quiet bit out loud. There is now no going back. Ms Malik presents two possibilities for what Europe can do. But there aren’t two choices …. there is only one.
If there ever was a thing as “global order”, it no longer exists. There is only disorder. Because chaos breeds profit for those in a position to take advantage of it. And when the president of the most powerful country in the world is backed by the richest man in the world there is a hell of a lot of leverage sitting at any negotiating table.

Donald Trump, the reality TV host who turned his father’s large fortune into a piggybank of pennies is nothing but a brand, a face on a vast array of tacky merch, a two-bit snake-oil salesman always with any eye out for a quick buck. And now he has graduated to the big league, in the business of flogging off countries for profit and relentless self-aggrandisement.

But the fact that 77 million Americans voted for this revenge-obsessed megalomaniac doesn't make him smart enough to have a coherent “doctrine”, it simply means that he has yet again been able to con his way into the top job with a mix of chutzpah, showmanship, and outrageously provocative statements that appeal to those who long for their white, Christian, male-dominated past.

Every day we learn about the latest violation of long-established norms as cruelty, greed, and unlimited power combine in an unfolding horror-show. And the worst is yet to come.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world has to adjust to the country that was America. As a nation it’s broken, a shattered remnant of democracy being remade as an autocracy in the image of Vladimir Putin’s Russia and Viktor Orban’s Hungary. With an impotent opposition, state-owned media, tame law-enforcement, and compromised judiciary.

With every executive order America becomes a greater danger, not only to itself, but to global peace and prosperity. It is simultaneously cannibalising itself and threatening everyone else on the planet with its assaults on the environment, trade, financial stability, and international relations.

The great orange monstrosity squatting in the centre of the rubble sees only his name in the media, revelling in the heady mix of fear, revulsion and adoration that reverberates over the airwaves. In his own mind he is a king, a saviour, a hero, and not the vulgar draft dodger, adulterer, failed businessman, insurrectionist and convicted felon who should be languishing in jail.

But that, unfortunately, is now part of the old way that is most definitely closed.
Sarah Longwell has argued that there was a Republican Party but that it has been replaced by a MAGA movement, but one that is split -on the one hand, people with no ideology who are fed up being poor and feeling left out who see or hear Trump airing their grievances, while on the other side are fierce ideologues of the Project 2025 kind, and she sees this as a fundamental weakness in the Trump administration that should enable Democrats to take back the Senate and the House in the mid-terms, as moderate Republican voters are turned off by both the fanatics and the ideologues.

Though it's quite difficult atm to separate which actions are part of the plan (Project 2025 etc.) and which are just him, and which are Elon and friends. I'm sure there is overlap in many areas, but differences in others.
 
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Stop cross posting, but I see your point. I don't know if a necessarily agree on it though. This is the time for a leader. Maybe let them kill themselves for a little longer, but now is the time to start the resistance. Maybe it comes from the grassroots. We can't stay quiet for much longer. Something needs to be done. The time is now, though, I'll admit, maybe we let them hang themselves for a little longer.
It doesn’t matter if it happens now or in a few months.

Yall gotta chill! It’s the 35th day! WE GOT TIME!

Dems should stay in the cut at least for another 4-5 months. WE. HAVE. TIME.

Elections have consequences and absence makes the heart grow fonder. This lesson must be learned. It’s time for dems to CHILL.
 

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It doesn’t matter if it happens now or in a few months.

Yall gotta chill! It’s the 35th day! WE GOT TIME!

Dems should stay in the cut at least for another 4-5 months. WE. HAVE. TIME.

Elections have consequences and absence makes the heart grow fonder. This lesson must be learned. It’s time for dems to CHILL.
I read the article you posted. It makes good points, but people are mad now. People are mad now. There needs to be a counter. Can we really wait? Can we? I dunno. We need to make the points now. At least the seedlings. Somebody needs to step up. Who is that person? There is nobody. It's gotta come through the grassroots. We need a new leader, and we need that person now. I don't see how you can't see this. We need somebody now. Things are fukking terrible. There needs to be a resistance. Maybe the main thesis can be brought about at a later date, but the ground works need to be made now. Somebody needs to start the resistance.
 

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I read the article you posted. It makes good points, but people are mad now. People are mad now. There needs to be a counter. Can we really wait? Can we? I dunno. We need to make the points now. At least the seedlings. Somebody needs to step up. Who is that person? There is nobody. It's gotta come through the grassroots. We need a new leader, and we need that person now. I don't see how you can't see this. We need somebody now. Things are fukking terrible. There needs to be a resistance. Maybe the main thesis can be brought about at a later date, but the ground works need to be made now. Somebody needs to start the resistance.
They can stay being mad. They’re not mad enough. Not yet. We ain’t near the end of the 1st quarter of response yet.

This aint shyt yet.

You haven’t been here before and you didn’t think it would this bad so you aren’t ready. We told you to get ready and you didn’t take heed.

The dem immune response won’t happen for a few months. Sit tight.
 
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