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Don't need to kick people out the party. Just agree that we will work towards our primary joint goals and find spaces to compromise on other important initiatives--or in some cases support something that you don't give a fukk about.
Again, you all want everything without doing anything.

We will need to deprioritize several issues. That literally means that many will feel left out, under appreciated and outright excised from the party. And to that I say, good riddance.

Cuts means CUTS.
 

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Again, you all want everything without doing anything.

We will need to deprioritize several issues. That literally means that many will feel left out, under appreciated and outright excised from the party. And to that I say, good riddance.

Cuts means CUTS.
No, you do not. If 5 people want to howl at the moon about an initiative, let them and they should be ok with that. The entire party does not need to "show their face" to legitimize their concerns.

If voters feel strongly enough about the initiative, the party supports it and keeps it moving. The media wants to question the party about the initiative, I'm going to direct you to one of my 5 colleagues who sponsor that initiative and keep it moving.
 

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Exactly why he would never. If Hakeem doesn't want to be the attack dog and be some behind the scenes lawyer get someone out there who will lead as the attack dog surrogate. Voters don't wants to hear this nikka poetry and repeated platitudes. And no old ass gerry connelly isn't that
So you’re saying you want him to be the avatar of BlueMAGA :mjgrin:
 

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No, you do not. If 5 people want to howl at the moon about an initiative, let them and they should be ok with that. The entire party does not need to "show their face" to legitimize their concerns.

If voters feel strongly enough about the initiative, the party supports it and keeps it moving. The media wants to question the party about the initiative, I'm going to direct you to one of my 5 colleagues who sponsor that initiative and keep it moving.
Nah. Thats how we got into this mess. Dems need to get even more elitist IMO.
 

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Don't need to kick people out the party. Just agree that we will work towards our primary joint goals and find spaces to compromise on other important initiatives--or in some cases support something that you don't give a fukk about.
People been talking about doing that. The people you would expect to be in said coalition though have an odd desire to be with MAGA adjacent three time Trump voters tho
 
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Party doesn't need to be slimmed, party members just need to be allowed to get in where they fit in.

I believe @Pressure point, is that everything within the party does not have to be a coalition.

This is why messaging is so important. You can’t appease everyone in a big tent, but yet Democrats have too many entitled parties who think EVERYONE should agree with EVERYTHING they believe EVERYWHERE and don’t have the mental capacity to learn that’s not how it works. Everyone wants to be in charge. Imagine how the civil rights movement would have gone with some of these groups. Or Vietnam protests.

This thread keeps going off the rails because we have to rehash how we got here when there is no right or wrong answer. It’s over. Dems still have people who should be participating in the tent rehashing Bernie 2016. We have to move on and realize it’s on the voters.

Every battle isn’t a national level battle. Fight in the local arena and then teach the people in the next town or county how to do the same. Every bill doesn’t have to be perfect. Kamala’s campaign tried to slim down the narrative, tell people what could be done, tell people what potentially could be done, and tell everyone what currently is happening was going to happen. People decided single issues: Abortions, Kamala not having a primary, Palestine/Israel, Racism, Sexism, Xenophobia were more important.

Pragmatism is important. Sometimes you have to teach hard lessons for people to understand they took their own lives for granted to justify their selfish wants. Just showing up and helping get bigger stuff done will help further the smaller causes.

And the messaging isn’t poor right now, it’s just that voters tied the Dems’ hands but want them to stop everything. Jeffries is doing the right thing. Crockett is doing the right thing. Harris, Obama and Biden are doing the right thing. Even Carville is doing the right thing.

Fight in the courts. Spread the message. Sit back and be quiet. Go to their turf and let people know how dumb they are. Let Republicans govern.

And the rank and file can get behind any of them. All the wants are to the wayside now.
 

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This is why messaging is so important. You can’t appease everyone in a big tent, but yet Democrats have too many entitled parties who think EVERYONE should agree with EVERYTHING they believe EVERYWHERE and don’t have the mental capacity to learn that’s not how it works. Everyone wants to be in charge. Imagine how the civil rights movement would have gone with some of these groups. Or Vietnam protests.

This thread keeps going off the rails because we have to rehash how we got here when there is no right or wrong answer. It’s over. Dems still have people who should be participating in the tent rehashing Bernie 2016. We have to move on and realize it’s on the voters.

Every battle isn’t a national level battle. Fight in the local arena and then teach the people in the next town or county how to do the same. Every bill doesn’t have to be perfect. Kamala’s campaign tried to slim down the narrative, tell people what could be done, tell people what potentially could be done, and tell everyone what currently is happening was going to happen. People decided single issues: Abortions, Kamala not having a primary, Palestine/Israel, Racism, Sexism, Xenophobia were more important.

Pragmatism is important. Sometimes you have to teach hard lessons for people to understand they took their own lives for granted to justify their selfish wants. Just showing up and helping get bigger stuff done will help further the smaller causes.

And the messaging isn’t poor right now, it’s just that voters tied the Dems’ hands but want them to stop everything. Jeffries is doing the right thing. Crockett is doing the right thing. Harris, Obama and Biden are doing the right thing. Even Carville is doing the right thing.

Fight in the courts. Spread the message. Sit back and be quiet. Go to their turf and let people know how dumb they are. Let Republicans govern.

And the rank and file can get behind any of them. All the wants are to the wayside now.
Yep. This is all I’m saying but people get tight when I say it. Dems can not keep chasing all these god damn groups. It’s over.
 

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People been talking about doing that. The people you would expect to be in said coalition though have an odd desire to be with MAGA adjacent three time Trump voters tho
Hello! Progressives been trying to chase maga for the last 8 years but when I say we need to oust these DSA WRECKERS then they act like we’re committing war crimes and being bigots.
 

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I called this when she was writting shadow writing his speeches/managing his presidential run. I low key believe his political 'aspirations' come from her.

She got more clout than Byron in FL. So far this nikka got nothing for 🥕bucking. None of thos token negroes have so far :russ:
 
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