General Trump Administration F**kery Thread (2025-2029)

[88m3]

Opinion | What I Saw on Jan. 6 Still Haunts Me

Donald Trump is promising to pardon Jan. 6 rioters. But we can’t let him rewrite history.

www.nytimes.com

 

[King Kreole]

Generally speaking white people have the luxury to withhold their vote because they won’t face the brunt of white supremacist oppression that the Trump administration will likely bring about.

...ok? We're talking about people who abstained from voting for the Democratic Nominee because she wouldn't commit to stop supporting a genocide. These people were disproportionately made up of demographics most at risk of harm from a Trump administration. You're using the mental schema of a mid-20th century conservative angry at Vietnam War protestors and thinks they're all rich white college kids.

Economically Kamala’s platform was center left. Actually most of the policies that she ran on was center left. She just didn’t say the right combination of words to satisfy fickle leftist.

The right combination of words being "I will not support a genocide". Impossible to appease those fickle leftists.

Unfortunately we live in a democracy where whoever gets the most votes win. So yes we have to hold our nose and vote for the most left candidate that can win regardless if we like them or not the alternative is for the country to continue to move to the right because the next left administration has undue or clean up the wreckage the next republican administration creates

The country is moving to the right because the people in charge of the nominally left party furtively harbor right wing views, so the party will continue to gravitationally shift right absent of their constituency demanding they present an alternative vision rooted in actual oppositional politics and ideology. You're not going to vote centrist your way out of a tailspin into right wing authoritarianism.

 

[King Kreole]

I'm talking about your shortsighted belief that by not voting you hold the left accountable. In what world does that make sense? Trump is clearly the answer in your world. You don't live in the real world. You live in a bubble of ideological mishaps. It makes absolutely no sense. Your belief leads to Trump. How is that the answer? If your belief leads to a Trump presidency, you need to reevaluate. Trump is not the answer.

Ok I genuinely think you have me confused for another poster because what you're saying here is completely inscrutable to me.

 

[Ciggavelli]

Ok I genuinely think you have me confused for another poster because what you're saying here is completely inscrutable to me.

I'm not. Your beliefs lead to a Trump presidency. That was proven. Your beliefs are shortsighted. Perhaps you have the best intentions, and I think you do. I actually hear what you are saying about holding people accountable, but it was shortsighted. It resulted in a 2nd Trump presidency. That is fukked up. I really think you need to reevaluate, sincerely. I can understand from step one why one might not want to vote for Kamala. However, step 2 and 3 lead to a Trump presidency. It was not the right time for the non-voters to protest the democrats. It lead to a Trump presidency, and the world is much worse off. I think the non-voters need to realize this. Their non-vote helped elect Trump. That's all I'm saying. But, I do hear what you are saying. I just think you are going about it the wrong way. Trump was never the answer, and the non-voters should have being doing everything possible to avoid a Trump 2nd term. They didn't, and now we're here.... It disappoints me to be honest. They had good intentions, but they eventually consented to a Trump 2nd term. That bothers me. I really wish people would think more than 1 step ahead. They perhaps didn't realize their actions would result in Trump getting elected again, but they did. That's just a fact.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Rudy Giuliani Is Held in Contempt of Court in Defamation Case

Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City, has failed to turn over his assets to two Georgia poll workers who won a defamation lawsuit against him.

www.nytimes.com

 

[the cac mamba]

Kamala Harris ran a campaign that was explicitly hostile to leftist beliefs

 

[the cac mamba]

The right combination of words being "I will not support a genocide". Impossible to appease those fickle leftists.

sorry, chief, but what happened on October 7th means it's a war, not a genocide. one side getting their asses kicked, and refusing to admit that it's an unwinnable conflict, doesn't change that.

if Hamas can't win, why the fukk aren't you calling on them to surrender? why do you prefer Hamas continue a war that's only getting their own people killed? i don't want to see Gazans killed; that's why they need to admit that it's over. they lost.

 

[88m3]

keep in mind this is a guy who said Trump ran the most pro black campaign of all time

shame the mods are asleep at the wheel

 

[the cac mamba]

these J6 pardons are gonna be a fukking disgrace

his conduct in general is gonna be terrible, and totally self serving. trump literally has nothing holding him accountable now

 

[King Kreole]

I'm not. Your beliefs lead to a Trump presidency. That was proven. Your beliefs are shortsighted. Perhaps you have the best intentions, and I think you do. I actually hear what you are saying about holding people accountable, but it was shortsighted. It resulted in a 2nd Trump presidency. That is fukked up. I really think you need to reevaluate, sincerely. I can understand from step one why one might not want to vote for Kamala. However, step 2 and 3 lead to a Trump presidency. It was not the right time for the non-voters to protest the democrats. It lead to a Trump presidency, and the world is much worse off. I think the non-voters need to realize this. Their non-vote helped elect Trump. That's all I'm saying. But, I do hear what you are saying. I just think you are going about it the wrong way. Trump was never the answer, and the non-voters should have being doing everything possible to avoid a Trump 2nd term. They didn't, and now we're here.... It disappoints me to be honest. They had good intentions, but they eventually consented to a Trump 2nd term. That bothers me. I really wish people would think more than 1 step ahead. They perhaps didn't realize their actions would result in Trump getting elected again, but they did. That's just a fact.

My belief was simply that it is unacceptable for the President to be aiding and abetting the genocide of the Palestinians. If you believe that supporting a genocide is a sine qua non of defeating Trump - which was just proven to not be the case - then I would ask you to take a step back and look at the very system you're defending and ask yourself what depths of depravity it has led you to justify.

But I think the true confusion between our two positions is that you view Trump as the ultimate source of all evil in this world, so you're perfectly willing to countenance any immoral action or condition to defeat him, including literal genocide. Whereas I believe evil exists outside of Trump, and works through him, which is why the argument that we are allowed to commit evil to defeat evil rings hollow to me. To me, Trump is bad because of the bad things he does, not because of who he is in an ontological sense, so I face no cognitive dissonance levying criticisms against other people who also do bad things. But you're myopically focused on Trump as an existentially evil figure, which is why you cannot see or comprehend when people do even worse things than he has done.

 

[the cac mamba]

My belief was simply that it is unacceptable for the President to be aiding and abetting the genocide of the Palestinians.

how about what the palestinians did on october 7th, that violent terrorist attack where they killed women and children? was that acceptable?

seems like a pretty clear cut case of "don't dish it out, if you can't take it"

 

[King Kreole]

sorry, chief, but what happened on October 7th means it's a war, not a genocide. one side getting their asses kicked, and refusing to admit that it's an unwinnable conflict, doesn't change that.

if Hamas can't win, why the fukk aren't you calling on them to surrender? why do you prefer Hamas continue a war that's only getting their own people killed? i don't want to see Gazans killed; that's why they need to admit that it's over. they lost.

Right, at least you're willing to admit to holding such noxious and causally misguided views as this. It's the other people in here who share your end position but are unwilling to show they did the same nonsense work as you to get to that position that are living in denial.

 

[the cac mamba]

Right, at least you're willing to admit to holding such noxious and causally misguided views as this. It's the other people in here who share your end position but are unwilling to show they did the same nonsense work as you to get to that position that are living in denial.

pathetic non-answer. i asked you a simple, direct question, and you evade accountability like a woman

can hamas ever get rid of israel? no. can they win this conflict? no. are they accomplishing anything besides getting their own people killed? no.

 

[King Kreole]

how about what the palestinians did on october 7th, that violent terrorist attack where they killed women and children? was that acceptable?

seems like a pretty clear cut case of "don't dish it out, if you can't take it"

Killing innocent men, women and children is a moral abomination to me. But that was not the purpose of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, it cannot be used to tar and feather the entire Palestinian resistance movement, and is not a relevant retort to the question of Israel's genocide of the Palestinians.

But I'm not sure how this is discussion is germane to the impending Trump Administration, which is the point of this thread. If you want to have a discussion about October 7th, either bring it back to the impending Trump Administration or take it to the Israel-Gaza thread.

 

[King Kreole]

pathetic non-answer. i asked you a simple, direct question, and you evade accountability like a woman

Alright have a bad night.