Gaza Michigan Receipts

[mastermind]

They supported Trump in spite of the Muslim ban. In spite of the fact that he will be worse on Gaza. They chose the greater evil. Are we just supposed to ignore reality?

To reiterate, I oppose the next Muslim ban.

I don’t think of that group as a monolith. I also wonder in a few states, how many of them actually voted? But with Trump, at least it’s better to dance with the devil you know than the one who pretends to be your friend while also stabbing you in the back.

 

[mobbinfms]

I don’t think of that group as a monolith. I also wonder in a few states, how many of them actually voted?

Of course. I’m not suggesting 100% voted for Trump. I’m specifically talking about the people who participated in the protest vote in the primary and those who either didn’t vote or voted for Trump in the general.

But with Trump, at least it’s better to dance with the devil you know than the one who pretends to be your friend while also stabbing you in the back.

Completely disagree. You have a moral imperative to pick the lesser of two evils.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Obama shoulda let the auto industry crash and just blamed bush.

 

[RadaMillz]

How do you explain her losing in every other swing state?

If all Muslims voted Harris, and all Jill stein votes went to Harris, she still would have lost.

Y’all forget America still 200+ million white majority. Add that to the Latino vote and it’s mathematically impossible for her to win.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Ok so maybe democrats should focus on working class issues then ? It’s almost as if the economy was THE key issue this section

They did this too in the form of support for labor, housing access, building new homes, healthcare access, raising the minimum wage, expanding paid family and medical leave, investing in education, strengthening social security and Medicare, addressing climate change through clean energy job creation, and making child care more affordable.

 

[mastermind]

Completely disagree. You have a moral imperative to pick the lesser of two evils.

The thing is, when you see members of your family, your old home, and your people getting eradicated with the help of the current administration, which one is less evil?

I think the issue many liberals who are confused, but really angry at Muslim and Arab voters choices, is that they believe they are the good guys and Biden is a good guy. It’s hard to say that if you are seeing those images or you personally know someone who is impacted or no longer with us due to Biden’s actions and inaction.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

fukk em and fukk that POC shyt. They can hold they own nuts.

I've been done with terms like "POC" and other generalized language that, while well-meaning, can sometimes be used to overlook or downplay our unique experiences. That doesn't mean I support the mistreatment of any other group. I just believe that lumping us all together can sometimes undermine the visibility and urgency of issues affecting us.

 

[Liu Kang]

With what you wrote, why throw votes away?

It's up to her campaign management, maybe their internal polls had swaying never trumpers working and it didn't. I don't know.

Considering the exit polls, I don't think young white men or Latinos had Gaza high up as the reason they voted Trump. Inflation seems to be the key issue that doomed her :

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/national-results/general/president/0

Also, Muslims/Arabs were definitely rebuked by the Dems because of Gaza but maybe others were simply socially conservative. I think we can't just simply assume that they all tied their vote to Gaza.

Finally her being the VP, I do not know how much she could sway Biden's foreign policies and she'd be tied to him on this anyway.

 

[Torrential]

Also, Muslims/Arabs were definitely rebuked by the Dems because of Gaza but maybe others were simply socially conservative. I think we can't just simply assume that they all tied their vote to Gaza.

Finally her being the VP, I do not know how much she could sway Biden's foreign policies and she'd be tied to him on this anyway.

Why did the Muslim Michigan vote sway so heavily from Biden in 2020 to Trump in 2024? Bro it has less to do with social issues and more to do with foreign policy what do you mean ? Trump literally went to Dearborn and promised the Muslim community to end the Gaza war and got a pledge from religious leaders there to vote for him….Kamala didn’t . This is 100% tied to Gaza. You have religious leaders across the country telling Muslims during Friday sermons to never vote democrat , to vote third party . The democrats never really understood how much this issue affected a significant voting bloc in the swing states. Even in Wisconsin the Muslim vote is so significant that it can sway the ejection . Trump won Wisconsin by 29,634 , the Muslim voter number is 40k there….. ( Washington Post) That’s two crucial rust belt states

A lot of higher learning folks were telling me back in January that the Muslims will fall in line come Novemeber . How were they supposed to fall in line when they were being ignored

 

[mobbinfms]

The thing is, when you see members of your family, your old home, and your people getting eradicated with the help of the current administration, which one is less evil?

I think the issue many liberals who are confused, but really angry at Muslim and Arab voters choices, is that they believe they are the good guys and Biden is a good guy. It’s hard to say that if you are seeing those images or you personally know someone who is impacted or no longer with us due to Biden’s actions and inaction.

The one urging Bibi to “finish the job” is the more evil one.
This isn’t a question of good vs evil (on this issue). This is a question of the lesser of two evils and it is clear that Trump is the greater evil and that community (as we defined it earlier) knowingly supported the greater evil and must now deal with the consequences of their actions.

 

[mobbinfms]

Why did the Muslim Michigan vote sway so heavily from Biden in 2020 to Trump in 2024? Bro it has less to do with social issues and more to do with foreign policy what do you mean ? Trump literally went to Dearborn and promised the Muslim community to end the Gaza war and got a pledge from religious leaders there to vote for him….Kamala didn’t . This is 100% tied to Gaza. You have religious leaders across the country telling Muslims during Friday sermons to never vote democrat , to vote third party . The democrats never really understood how much this issue affected a significant voting bloc in the swing states. Even in Wisconsin the Muslim vote is so significant that it can sway the ejection . Trump won Wisconsin by 29,634 , the Muslim voter number is 40k there….. ( Washington Post) That’s two crucial rust belt states

A lot of higher learning folks were telling me back in January that the Muslims will fall in line come Novemeber . How were they supposed to fall in line when they were being ignored

Trump has said repeatedly that Bibi should just finish the job, if Gaza is your number one issue, you either know that and allowed yourself to be lied to, or failed to do basic research on the stances of the two candidates. I’m talking about the Dearborn leaders here.

If you voted for the greater evil on your number one subject because you felt personally slighted by one of the candidates, you need to grow up and stop being so naive. Obama 08 is likely never going to happen again in our lifetimes. Voting is all about picking the better of two bad or flawed options. You have a moral imperative to pick the lesser of two evils when it is crystal clear as it is with Gaza/Muslims and these two candidates. If you fail to do that, you can’t complain about the consequences of your choice.

 

[Liu Kang]

Why did the Muslim Michigan vote sway so heavily from Biden in 2020 to Trump in 2024? Bro it has less to do with social issues and more to do with foreign policy what do you mean ? Trump literally went to Dearborn and promised the Muslim community to end the Gaza war and got a pledge from religious leaders there to vote for him….Kamala didn’t . This is 100% tied to Gaza. You have religious leaders across the country telling Muslims during Friday sermons to never vote democrat , to vote third party . The democrats never really understood how much this issue affected a significant voting bloc in the swing states. Even in Wisconsin the Muslim vote is so significant that it can sway the ejection . Trump won Wisconsin by 29,634 , the Muslim voter number is 40k there….. ( Washington Post) That’s two crucial rust belt states

A lot of higher learning folks were telling me back in January that the Muslims will fall in line come Novemeber . How were they supposed to fall in line when they were being ignored

You have the right to think Gaza played a major part in Kamala L and draw that conclusion but it is not backed by any poll or any post election analysis. She may have lost MI because of this but she didn't lose the election for this reason.

Kamala is currently trailing by 4.7M votes, that's more than the total number of Muslims in the US. The top 5 states with Muslim population are IL, NY, NJ, MD and then MI. And she won the top 4.

Once again, I'm not saying that Gaza had 0 impact. Just that the overall rejection of the Dems is global and therefore tied to issues that are not specific to Muslims.

Look at this NYT map :
Early Results Show a Red Shift Across the U.S.

The red shift happened everywhere even in states with less than 0.1% of Muslims.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Go with their gods regionally. Don’t care. The day after the election Morocco offered to make peace with Israel. It’s over.

Morocco reasserts ties with Israel for first time since Gaza war

In Morocco, pro-Palestine groups work to submit an anti-normalisation petition. If successful, it could force parliament to vote on ending ties with Israel.

www.newarab.com

 

[voiture]

Go with their gods regionally. Don’t care. The day after the election Morocco offered to make peace with Israel. It’s over.

Morocco reasserts ties with Israel for first time since Gaza war

In Morocco, pro-Palestine groups work to submit an anti-normalisation petition. If successful, it could force parliament to vote on ending ties with Israel.

www.newarab.com

Gaza is toast but at least those who voted against Biden regime will have their 1 day 'payback' until the reality steps in.

This issue might be settled after all after damn near 80 years of flare ups

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

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Gaza is toast but at least those who voted against Biden regime will have their 1 day 'payback' until the reality steps in.

This issue might be settled after all after damn near 80 years of flare ups

I bet Bibi used it as his own Iran Hostage Deal to help republicans until after the election