Gang leader and Brooklyn rapper Ra Diggs sentenced to 12 life terms plus 105 years

[360dagod]

So it's a known fact that dude was a snitch before he started the NYC Bloods?

That's wild as fukk.

I was hoping when I posted that someone would come on some "you can't believe everything you read on Wikipedia."

I already look at NYC Bloods kinda sideways, now that I know the whole shyt was started by a snitch, they get no props at all.

I've always had a feeling these new gangs were started by informants, backed by the feds, as a means to rope in all the crimies in a nice little package, but this pretty much confirms it.

It's hard to perform law enforcement when you're dealing with a bunch of little crews and cliques, but when you can tie them to a wide organization, the RICO act is a piece of cake to hit them with, and even on a lower level you can him them with gang laws that are much easier to enforce and get convictions.

We gotta do better.

Well it was OG mack and some dude named deadeye...
Deadeye was godbody
The blood teachings had 5% mixed with other shyt...
It just went left and went downhill
Guns/drugs/poverty is just a bad mix...

OG mack wasn't an informant..he wasn't working with law enforcement while banging...these nikkas were causing havoc...

Slicing up neutrals was something I never understood...

Ny different...its too consolidated for the NYPD to not know what's going on...
And just by the natural order of things, if you out there, there will be a time where you might have to let off the hammer...and that's how you get on the radar..

 

[tuckgod]

Well it was OG mack and some dude named deadeye...
Deadeye was godbody
The blood teachings had 5% mixed with other shyt...
It just went left and went downhill
Guns/drugs/poverty is just a bad mix...

OG mack wasn't an informant..he wasn't working with law enforcement while banging...these nikkas were causing havoc...

Slicing up neutrals was something I never understood...

Ny different...its too consolidated for the NYPD to not know what's going on...
And just by the natural order of things, if you out there, there will be a time where you might have to let off the hammer...and that's how you get on the radar..

I'ma keep it funky breh.

A LOT of nikkas used the Supreme Lessons for bullshyt.

It's easy as fukk to hit a young nikka with a couple lessons and plus degrees then slide in some bullshyt on top of it to control their minds.

Outside of that, are you saying this didn't happen?

"In 1987, Portee (OG Mack) claimed to have witnessed Don Taylor shoot Terrance Joyner on a Bronx, New York street in the early hours of August 16, 1987, causing Joyner's death. Based on Portee's eyewitness testimony, Taylor was convicted on April 25, 1989 and sentenced to a term of imprisonment of 22½ years to life. At the time of his original testimony, Portee was facing multiple charges in New York stemming from his arrest on August 31, 1987."

I'm not saying it did or didn't happen, I'm just looking for some clarity.

 

[360dagod]

I'ma keep it funky breh.

A LOT of nikkas used the Supreme Lessons for bullshyt.

It's easy as fukk to hit a young nikka with a couple lessons and plus degrees then slide in some bullshyt on top of it to control their minds.

Outside of that, are you saying this didn't happen?

"In 1987, Portee (OG Mack) claimed to have witnessed Don Taylor shoot Terrance Joyner on a Bronx, New York street in the early hours of August 16, 1987, causing Joyner's death. Based on Portee's eyewitness testimony, Taylor was convicted on April 25, 1989 and sentenced to a term of imprisonment of 22½ years to life. At the time of his original testimony, Portee was facing multiple charges in New York stemming from his arrest on August 31, 1987."

I'm not saying it did or didn't happen, I'm just looking for some clarity.

Yeah that did happen...

 

[tuckgod]

Yeah that did happen...

Then in my mind, and I’m far from a nikka who’s opinion matters today in this type of shyt, but according to old school rules, that makes his whole organization null and void.

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

So they was shooting nikkas that was trying to warn them instead of chucking the dueces and going back to just repping their crews, blocks and pjs?

Crazy.

When I say shoot, I'm talm'bout nikkas gettin' stabbed up, faces ripped open, etc. Island & Up North shyt.

But yeah, you gotta understand, during those times, dawg was damn near god level to them nikkas. Da war w/Kings & Nietas was damn near over and nikkas started preying on each other so to not fall victim, nikkas got with da program. Fear. Plus, nikkas was doin' damn near anything to get their names to ring bells.

 

[360dagod]

Then in my mind, and I’m far from a nikka who’s opinion matters today in this type of shyt, but according to old school rules, that makes his whole organization null and void.

I can agree with that..

I think alot of the newer ones don't even know

These bloods be on some no limit shyt..they sign any and everyone...

But they not trying to hear their shyt isn't official

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

I can agree with that..

I think alot of the newer ones don't even know

These bloods be on some no limit shyt..they sign any and everyone...

But they not trying to hear their shyt isn't official

Yeah, that shyt ain't what it once was.

 

[JodyHiighroller]

Brooklyn Appeals Court Rules Rap Lyrics Can Be Used As Evidence In Court | Genius


Waka Flocka Flame's "Live by the Gun" played a role in the conviction of Brooklyn rapper Ra Diggs.
Brooklyn rapper and gang leader Ra Diggs lost an appeal for conviction including charges of murder, weapons possession, racketeering, and robbery on February 15. Per the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Diggs' appeal had been based on the argument that his lyrics and musical persona had been brought into the case erroneously.


Diggs, whose real name is Ronald Herron, was convicted in 2014 and sentenced to serve 12 life terms. In rejecting his appeal, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit stated that the First Amendment does not “prohibit the evidentiary use of speech to establish the elements of a crime or to prove motive or intent,” per the Queens Daily Eagle.

According to SPIN, Waka Flocka Flame’s song, “Live by the Gun,”which features Diggs, was one of several songs used in the trial. Diggs touts his affiliation with the Murderous Mad Dogs, a gang within the Bloods, and raps about killing somebody saying:

Ask my nikka Uncle when I murder with the chopper
nikka shot me five times, two days later, the nikka died
nikkas shooting at the five is committing a suicide
I’m a Murderous Mad Dawg, that’s the acronym
MMD, you front on me, a nikka clapping them
As part of Diggs' trial, his collaborator Uncle Murdaappeared in court and testified that lyrics are often exaggerations.

The debate over what role rap lyrics should play in a criminal trial has been ongoing in recent years. According to 2013 research by the New Jersey ACLU, out of 18 cases that considered introducing rap lyrics as evidence, they were allowed 80 percent of the time.

Professor Erik Nielson, who spoke to Genius in 2016 about the use of rap lyrics in court cases, said he believes that rap lyrics have been used in hundreds, if not thousands of cases. Nielson stressed that rap lyrics are the only fictional work to be consistently used in court, and that the race of the defendant often plays a role. He said:

Race is without question involved in this. I think rap is often a proxy for a young black male. When we talk about the demonized and villainized rappers, it’s coded because for us rap music is an accurate representation of black life. So when we talk about rap, we’re really just finding another way to talk about black and Latino men.

Genius News also previously broke down just how often lyrics are landing rappers in jail.


Rapper 21 Savage, who was recently detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said that his lawyers believe he was targeted due to song lyrics. On an extended version of his track “a lot,” 21 is critical of the country’s immigration policy, rapping:

Been through some things, but I couldn’t imagine, my kids stuck at the border (Straight up)
Flint still need water (Straight up)
nikkas was innocent, couldn’t get lawyers (On god)
In 2015, rappers T.I., Killer Mike, and Big Boi met with the Supreme Court to argue about the importance of the First Amendment with regards to rap lyrics after a high schooler was suspended for posting a song that two coaches called sexually inappropriate.

“Anyone who is learned in law is capable of separating art and lyrics, whether you agree with them or not, and actual human behavior.“ Killer Mike said at the time, “I think the courts understand it when it’s Johnny Cash. I think they understand it when it’s Robert Nesta Marley.”

Read the full lyrics to “Live by the Gun” and other songs by Ra Diggson Genius now.

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Professor Erik Nielson, who spoke to Genius in 2016 about the use of rap lyrics in court cases, said he believes that rap lyrics have been used in hundreds, if not thousands of cases. Nielson stressed that rap lyrics are the only fictional work to be consistently used in court, and that the race of the defendant often plays a role. He said:

Race is without question involved in this. I think rap is often a proxy for a young black male. When we talk about the demonized and villainized rappers, it’s coded because for us rap music is an accurate representation of black life. So when we talk about rap, we’re really just finding another way to talk about black and Latino men.

Smh

Krs said this 20 years that rap lyrics are being used as court evidence

to them its NOT AN ART

In essence rappers are basically snitching on themselves via song

 

[re'up]

He was going to be finished regardless of the inclusion of his lyrics, it was a comprehensive RICO murder conspiracy/narcotics trafficking case, the blatant lyrics were just window dressing.

 

[_genocidecutter_]

Damn 12 life sentences? He gonna serving time in the afterlife.

 

[Homer Simpson]

Damn 12 life sentences? He gonna serving time in the after.

23 hours a day solitary too

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

 

[FreshAIG]

 

[Homer Simpson]

Only thing worse than a coward is a coward with the iron because he ready for killin but he ain't ready for dyin