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....according to Snoop, himself, Oakland’s Richie Rich was an significant influence on his style: “The reason I formed 213 with Warren G and Nate Dogg is because Richie Rich had a group called 415. I was lovin’ his style and voice which I incorporated into my style when I first started rapping.”


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I'll go light...

The first double album in Hip Hop was started by DJ Jazyy Jeff and The Fresh Prince with 'he's the Dj Im the rapper" also The concept of the double album existed way back in the 60's. In the 90's Prince and Smashing Pumpkins were already doing it before Pac. But I'll give it to Pac for promoting it as such in hip hop.



GRODT was the first manifested hype of mixtape popularity...We never saw that in hip hop. 50 was supposed to be finished. He Re invented himself by first changing the mixtape game as we know it and then making good on his hype with his Shady Records debut. GRODT was the final phaze of the underground mixtape hype. Plus aint no gangster rapper (while alive ) ever have the crossover success as 50 did with GRODT. GRODT changed the game because it was the end result of mixtape hype which is what we use to follow new artists till this day. Its a hard act to follow and only few have been able to do it.


I know we talking hip hop but when i think of game changing concept albums I think of Marvin gayes"whats Going On" Pink Floyds The Wall....someone said 'prince of theives' started the story arc from front to back. But De Las 2nd album kept its story theme from beginning to end. But if someone feels thats debatable.... Cubes, Death Certificate as a concept album with The Death Side on side 1 and The Life side on side 2. "the death side, a mirror image of where we are today, the life side, a vision of where we needed to go" The funeral in the beginning..The death at the end of side 1..The birth at the beginning of side 2. The final breakdown of whole concept of the album on the song "Us" follwed by No Vaseline at the end of side 2. Straight brilliance. I'll even throw in Cuban Linx being that Rza said it was designed to be like a movie. Then after that was Kool Keiths Doctor Octogon album were the same them rides from beginning to end.
 

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Jeezy was just wack back then. He changed his style and pretty much created a genre


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nah I think Wayne did. Dudes like future, thug, ect. Def has take more influence from Wayne then ye.

How did Jeezy create a genre if he changed his style to fit a genre that already existed? Jeezy was out here sounding like a knock off Trick Daddy meets Pastor Troy doing crunk records before he switched over to trap rap after T.I. blew up with the style. Ya'll stay rewriting history.
 

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How did Jeezy create a genre if he changed his style to fit a genre that already existed? Jeezy was out here sounding like a knock off Trick Daddy meets Pastor Troy doing crunk records before he switched over to trap rap after T.I. blew up with the style. Ya'll stay rewriting history.
Ti coined a name. Jeezy creates the genre, the sound on trap musik is nothing like sounds ok trap music and the trap music that followed It.
 

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Ti coined a name. Jeezy creates the genre, the sound on trap musik is nothing like sounds ok trap music and the trap music that followed It.
I agree

Doin My Job, Let Me Tell You Something, Lets Get Away, TI vs. Tip, Be Easy, etc. these ain’t “trap” records
 

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Ti coined a name. Jeezy creates the genre, the sound on trap musik is nothing like sounds ok trap music and the trap music that followed It.

Jeezy didn't create a genre. There is no reference point to what Jeezy was even doing before T.I. Nobody referred to thst style as trap music or trap rap before T.I.

Sonically, you can't really say T.I. wasn't make trap records. You can't overlook a song like "Look What I Got" and not conclude that Jeezy based his style on that song. He even sampled "Rubberband Man" for "Trap Star". Trap records these days sound more like Flockaveli than they do either TM101 or Trap Muzik.

"Doin My Job" is as about as much a trap record as "Go Crazy".
 
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Whoever said illmatic wasn't influential... thank you... I used to mod the ughh forums and would go pages arguing this very fact with cats who were on nas nuts. Lol. B b b but it was the first multi producer album bytch please have u heard of spice one?
 

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Illmatic was influential because it was the first time you had multiple top notch producers working with an mc. Before Illmatic it was always one producer on an album. Illmatic was crafted by many of the top producers of that time.
 

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I'll go light...

The first double album in Hip Hop was started by DJ Jazyy Jeff and The Fresh Prince with 'he's the Dj Im the rapper" also The concept of the double album existed way back in the 60's. In the 90's Prince and Smashing Pumpkins were already doing it before Pac. But I'll give it to Pac for promoting it as such in hip hop.



GRODT was the first manifested hype of mixtape popularity...We never saw that in hip hop. 50 was supposed to be finished. He Re invented himself by first changing the mixtape game as we know it and then making good on his hype with his Shady Records debut. GRODT was the final phaze of the underground mixtape hype. Plus aint no gangster rapper (while alive ) ever have the crossover success as 50 did with GRODT. GRODT changed the game because it was the end result of mixtape hype which is what we use to follow new artists till this day. Its a hard act to follow and only few have been able to do it.


I know we talking hip hop but when i think of game changing concept albums I think of Marvin gayes"whats Going On" Pink Floyds The Wall....someone said 'prince of theives' started the story arc from front to back. But De Las 2nd album kept its story theme from beginning to end. But if someone feels thats debatable.... Cubes, Death Certificate as a concept album with The Death Side on side 1 and The Life side on side 2. "the death side, a mirror image of where we are today, the life side, a vision of where we needed to go" The funeral in the beginning..The death at the end of side 1..The birth at the beginning of side 2. The final breakdown of whole concept of the album on the song "Us" follwed by No Vaseline at the end of side 2. Straight brilliance. I'll even throw in Cuban Linx being that Rza said it was designed to be like a movie. Then after that was Kool Keiths Doctor Octogon album were the same them rides from beginning to end.
Nobody said Pac made the first double album. It was said that he made the double album in hip hop popular

I agree that 50’s mixtape run was influential but there was nothing game changing about the album GRODT itself. You are correct about the circumstances surrounding the album being game changing tho

Death Certificate is one of my top 3 albums. I could go on for days about it

Same thing with Cuban Linx
 

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Jeezy didn't create a genre. There is no reference point to what Jeezy was even doing before T.I. Nobody referred to thst style as trap music or trap rap before T.I.

Sonically, you can't really say T.I. wasn't make trap records. You can't overlook a song like "Look What I Got" and not conclude that Jeezy based his style on that song. He even sampled "Rubberband Man" for "Trap Star". Trap records these days sound more like Flockaveli than they do either TM101 or Trap Muzik.

"Doin My Job" is as about as much a trap record as "Go Crazy".
I’m not going to go back and worth wit u on this. They wasn’t even a trap music genre until Jeezy and Gucci pretty much created that sound, everything from today spawns from they sound.
 
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