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i'm not even a jay z fan..but them cac a little to comfortable hanging a make believe black man
Full Post-Ether Interview with an Emotional Jay Z on Hot 97
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i'm not even a jay z fan..but them cac a little to comfortable hanging a make believe black man
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Omerta
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Takeover the better song, Ether the better diss.
If Jay was a better actor he could have cut the margin, but that shyt got him.
It's easy for us to sit here and be like why is dude like that, but real talk, I'd probably lose it too if there was a song out there for the world to hear which completely destroys me. shyt, I don't wanna admit it...but I'd be asking Flex for extended bombs just so I could keep it together. I wouldn't even give Angie the time though.
If Jay was a better actor he could have cut the margin, but that shyt got him.
It's easy for us to sit here and be like why is dude like that, but real talk, I'd probably lose it too if there was a song out there for the world to hear which completely destroys me. shyt, I don't wanna admit it...but I'd be asking Flex for extended bombs just so I could keep it together. I wouldn't even give Angie the time though.
RicanFury
Come Home With Me
*cues one mic with dogs barking in background*
Rapmastermind
Superstar
Nothing is better than listening to this live and just being there during the whole battle. "Ether" and NaS won cause Jay and a lot of people in Hip Hop were too quick to write NaS off. This interview was great cause it was proof that "Ether" won. He had to apologize for "Super Ugly" (Pop sh!t apologize N!gga) and he had to admit that the diss affected him emotional. We know now that "Hit em Up" affect Big emotionally also but at that time we didn't see it (Notorious movie depicted it well though). We got to see Jay was affect. "Ether" was just too strong. It's funny that still till this day you hear that same defense like it was 2002 again, "Takeover is a better song". Look, Jay got Mobb no doubt but his bars at NaS were like he said "Opinion". "Ether" had more facts. He used Pac and Big's Legacy against him.
The beef was brewing for years. But I think the sh!t hit the fan when NaS heard Bleek and Jay's "What you think of that". Where Jay was using "Like" after everything. Then NaS hit Bleek on "NaStradamus". Then there was the "Eye for an Eye and Stillmatic" freestyles. Then the Summer Jam screen. It's a really deep and detail beef. In my view only Big and Pac was bigger cause of how deep the beef went. Rumors are AZ tried to stop it before it escalted but NaS wasn't trying to hear it at the time. (Remember AZ was in the Dead President Video with Big and Jay). It's almost sad cause NaS wanted to be #1 but forming an allance with Big, Jay would of been huge back then. Oh well. Jay Lost, anyone saying otherwise wasn't there.
But he did rebound with "The Black Album". BP2 was a damn mess and it was clear "Ether" was still having an effect. NaS came back strong after "STILLmatic" with "The Lost Tapes" and "God Son" then he kinda slip with "Street's Disciple". I'm very happy they were men and moved on from their differences something Big nor Pac got to do. As someone who's a fan of both I'm happy they are cool now cause you it shows you negativity can turn to positivity. So Jay will probably end up higher than NaS on the all time list cause of success and the history he made. But NaS will always have that cold Decemeber in 2001 when he dropped that Nuke Bomb on Jay and then drop another bomb on Hip Hop with "STILLmatic". So in the end, they needed each other. The Beef revitalized NaS and the Beef humbled Jay and made him a better artist. I love these two brothers and they carried the torch of Big and Pac's Legacy. Honestly the most powerful lines in Ether was him using Big Legacy against Jay:
"Biggie's ya man and you got the nerve to say that you better than Big, D!ck suckin lips won't you let the late great veteran live"
"How much of Biggie's rhymes is going to come out yo Fat Lips".
The Pac sample was viscous also.
seemorecizzy
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ItWasWritten
Superstar
i still wanna hear the original ether. hopefully someday, someone will leak it
I never new this existed...
I googled this sh1t.. 2 more versus from the gawd and jay woulda comitted suicide
Apparently the original version of “Ether” made by Nas, was much more agressive and harsher than the one we have all heard. And obviously it has even better lines than the original.
Because Colombia asked him up to 3 times to edit the songs, that is probably the big reason why in certain points of Ether sounds like Nas is filling in spaces with saying things like “cock a fella” and “gay-Z”. I don’t know first hand but this all makes sense because it seems that he was replacing those words with something he had to take out.
And Colombia is probably the reason why people who think “Takeover” is better, constantly bring up the “gay” and “cock” lines that Nas slightly over did it with to make it seem like he lost the battle.
Anyway here is an interview from Fat Joe before Ether was released in 2001 addressing lyrics that were cut from the original song:
AHH: One thing that just came up today, Nas apparently has a response to Jay Z’s “The Takeover” on his upcoming album, which implicates you and Pun and includes the lyrics: “Call yourself gangsta but you were begging for pardon that night in Carbon when Terror Squad flipped on your squadron tried to front on their checks till Pun put a gun to your chest.”
Fat Joe: We gotta hear it but damn, what a way to put me right in the middle of the beef huh? We don’t comment on that, that’s old news. Like I said all the negative energy all that sht you can throw that out the window.
Nas is crazy. No question that we are allies with Nas Escobar. We love Nas. I almost named my son after Nas. As far as him and Jay Z with the beef: that’s they stuff. Until somebody tries to involve me in that sht, that’s it. I ain’t got no problem with the whole Rocafella. It’s well documented. Everybody keeps trying to get me to talk about that sh*t in every interview. Why don’t they ask Jay Z that stuff? I read his interveiws, nobody asks him. If you interview him, ask him.
Verse 1:
So you call yourself god mc… J-hova\
drunk the glass of blasphemy & forgot to pray over\
your games over\ crossed the warpath of a brave soldier\
youre a makeover\ my protege trying to takeover\ I was the sheperd that led you\ But you bit the hand that fed you\ mad cause since I met you i never did respect you\ and as hard as it seems\ you know that I fathered your dreams\ you was a groupie always begging to be part of my team\ another case of a boy and his teacher\ I was the first to poison your speakers\ so kill all that noise that your preaching\ I understand\ all your plans to underhand\ aired threats of you pullin my card next summerjam\ let me make this clear hova\ You had my left overs\ she told me your little problem of the day when you slept over\ but thats another subject homey\ ***** you phony\
Im coming to collect the debt from the years that you owe me\ so what you capitlized... only cause i allowed\ Im taking aim at your dome\ and reclaiming my throne\
“Who said I that i aint still nasty”
Verse 2:
How you planned on facing\ the half man half-amazing\
Dont need a fam, Nas is a one man invasion\ claim you hot but you flopped with your roc-familia\ cause real recognize real and youre not familiar\
call yourself gansta but you were begging for pardon\
that night in carbon\ when terror squad flipped on your squadron\
Tried to front on their checks\ till pun put a gun to your chest\
YOu said it yourself dog, Nas is one of the best\
Dont need to search for some dirt to expose you\ I leave it up to the flow dispose you\ when i oppose you\ This is it Im calling ya\ come out and play like “warriors”\
studied my blueprint then pieced together your formula\
Guess the knowledge I speak too deep to follow\
that`s why your stomach to weak to swallow\ The real truth
that Nas is\ the greates of all timers\
f*ck skeletons, keep only weaponry in my closets
Artfull Dodger
All Star
Is it december already?? Feels like Ether Day in here....
Torrential
LWO
damn Jay sounds defeated here
smoking man
still breathin
It doesn't change the fact that Nas is
basically
Ronnie Lott
#49erGang
I'm glad Angie Martinez wasn't dikridin Jay on this interview. She was pressin that nygga. Jay seemed nervous, speechless, agitated, dude was stutterin over his words and for the 1st time Jay publicly shared an emotional and vulnerable side.
"Ether" really fucced with Jay psychologically. Like deep down inside, that shyt brought Jay down to a level of humility that he could never imagine he could drop to.
Nas won the battle, but Jay won the war. Jay fucced Nas' baby moms then later signed him. So u gotta recognize that. I fukk with Nas and Jay heavy and I have always objctivey evaluated the beef.
This was an epic and historical hip hop battle
"Ether" really fucced with Jay psychologically. Like deep down inside, that shyt brought Jay down to a level of humility that he could never imagine he could drop to.
Nas won the battle, but Jay won the war. Jay fucced Nas' baby moms then later signed him. So u gotta recognize that. I fukk with Nas and Jay heavy and I have always objctivey evaluated the beef.
This was an epic and historical hip hop battle
Nothing is better than listening to this live and just being there during the whole battle. "Ether" and NaS won cause Jay and a lot of people in Hip Hop were too quick to write NaS off. This interview was great cause it was proof that "Ether" won. He had to apologize for "Super Ugly" (Pop sh!t apologize N!gga) and he had to admit that the diss affected him emotional. We know now that "Hit em Up" affect Big emotionally also but at that time we didn't see it (Notorious movie depicted it well though). We got to see Jay was affect. "Ether" was just too strong. It's funny that still till this day you hear that same defense like it was 2002 again, "Takeover is a better song". Look, Jay got Mobb no doubt but his bars at NaS were like he said "Opinion". "Ether" had more facts. He used Pac and Big's Legacy against him.
The beef was brewing for years. But I think the sh!t hit the fan when NaS heard Bleek and Jay's "What you think of that". Where Jay was using "Like" after everything. Then NaS hit Bleek on "NaStradamus". Then there was the "Eye for an Eye and Stillmatic" freestyles. Then the Summer Jam screen. It's a really deep and detail beef. In my view only Big and Pac was bigger cause of how deep the beef went. Rumors are AZ tried to stop it before it escalted but NaS wasn't trying to hear it at the time. (Remember AZ was in the Dead President Video with Big and Jay). It's almost sad cause NaS wanted to be #1 but forming an allance with Big, Jay would of been huge back then. Oh well. Jay Lost, anyone saying otherwise wasn't there.
But he did rebound with "The Black Album". BP2 was a damn mess and it was clear "Ether" was still having an effect. NaS came back strong after "STILLmatic" with "The Lost Tapes" and "God Son" then he kinda slip with "Street's Disciple". I'm very happy they were men and moved on from their differences something Big nor Pac got to do. As someone who's a fan of both I'm happy they are cool now cause you it shows you negativity can turn to positivity. So Jay will probably end up higher than NaS on the all time list cause of success and the history he made. But NaS will always have that cold Decemeber in 2001 when he dropped that Nuke Bomb on Jay and then drop another bomb on Hip Hop with "STILLmatic". So in the end, they needed each other. The Beef revitalized NaS and the Beef humbled Jay and made him a better artist. I love these two brothers and they carried the torch of Big and Pac's Legacy. Honestly the most powerful lines in Ether was him using Big Legacy against Jay:
"Biggie's ya man and you got the nerve to say that you better than Big, D!ck suckin lips won't you let the late great veteran live"
"How much of Biggie's rhymes is going to come out yo Fat Lips".
The Pac sample was viscous also.
Well said.
Is it december already?? Feels like Ether Day in here....
These nikkas seriously got me checking the calender. Christmas in April, you nikkas couldn't wait for December?
Does anyone have the nas post ether interview with flex on youtube?