Frederick Douglass Isn't Black

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I know this thread is directed to @marcuz because of his strong views on biracials. There's also another poster (forgot his name) that has a biracial parent & a Black parent that wanted to exclude biracials from being called Black as well. He basically said if you're more than 1/4 white, you can't be counted as Black. I think it's a fair question because FD came from a mixed background (slave master rape of course) & the one drop rule was in full effect back then.
 

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Do you think he'd be culturally Black if the one drop rule wasn't in effect back then?

The one drop rule was/is part of American culture. If he was in another society/culture his blackness could be debated, such as Latin America. It's subjective upon the culture/society. An American might say he's black, a Brazilian might say he's pardo.
 

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Black American doesn't equal pure African. If your family came through slavery then you have something besides African in your lineage - most likely.

What is the point of limiting who can be called Black? 75% African is still MIXED. If you're being techical it should 50% plus, but what's the real difference between 48% African and 51%? The attempt to quantify something like that ends in stupidity.

In America being Black means basically "not fully white". If you have any features that identify you as Black then Congratulations: your ass is black.

Tell em what they've won: a lifetime of being followed around stores. Niqqas acting like there's a prize of some sort.
 

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The one drop rule was/is part of American culture. If he was in another society/culture his blackness could be debated, such as Latin America. It's subjective upon the culture/society. An American might say he's black, a Brazilian might say he's pardo.

I truthfully don't know myself but I can definitely see your point.
 

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The one drop rule was/is part of American culture. If he was in another society/culture his blackness could be debated, such as Latin America. It's subjective upon the culture/society. An American might say he's black, a Brazilian might say he's pardo.


And it's ironic that Blacks in America have made more progress with their rights compared to their south american counterparts due to the fact that American culture didn't try to divide mixed people and those who had more african descent. By doing that the collective power of blacks was greater than if there was some sort of racial divide over dark skinned vs light skinned.
 

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What's so bad about saying that people who are 50% black is half black and not fully black?

They can still help out the black community even if they are half black. :manny:

the point is, what % makes you fully black? 100%? if that's the case then pretty much no one in America is fully black

that one drop rule can work both ways if we were to try to alienate or exclude people with an arbitrary % of white blood, damn near every nikka in America got some white blood in em somewhere down the line...is 51% black fully black? is 51% white fully white?

it's a wholly counterproductive and unnecessary train of thought that doesn't really serve any purpose outside of division and disdain in the community
 

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the point is, what % makes you fully black? 100%? if that's the case then pretty much no one in America is fully black

that one drop rule can work both ways if we were to try to alienate or exclude people with an arbitrary % of white blood, damn near every nikka in America got some white blood in em somewhere down the line...is 51% black fully black? is 51% white fully white?

it's a wholly counterproductive and unnecessary train of thought that doesn't really serve any purpose outside of division and disdain in the community
Basically over 50% makes you that race Is how I saw it.

Most cases I saw 75% as black



Is 51% possible? :dead:
 
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