Freddie Roach Says Manny Pacquiao Was Given "Mystery Drink" Every Day By Alex Ariza!!!

[LeVraiPapi]

You can't "juice" via shakes brehs.

nah breh. actually you can, lol. All liquid meds can be done as powder or capsules/pills. Even that, some plants/herbs enhance the Ts as well. Angel said it best. The testing procedures are decades behind

 

[krackdagawd]

nah breh. actually you can, lol. All liquid meds can be done as powder or capsules/pills. Even that, some plants/herbs enhance the Ts as well. Angel said it best. The testing procedures are decades behind

to juice via pills you would have to take a pro hormone and that has more negatives than positives for a boxer since the liver would be doing all the work. As far as anabolics you gotta inject/gel/pellet that and plants/herbs that are natural test boosters are banned in boxing and would come up in urine.

 

[vybzinc]

How long those shakes stay in his system? Cause he still kickin muth**** azz.

 

[Master Teacher]

to juice via pills you would have to take a pro hormone and that has more negatives than positives for a boxer since the liver would be doing all the work. As far as anabolics you gotta inject/gel/pellet that and plants/herbs that are natural test boosters are banned in boxing and would come up in urine.

how do you if he was juicing through the shake, or if was even a shake, Roach didn't know what the hell it was so don't call it that
for all we know it could been something to get clean out his system to pass the urine test, which is an easy test to beat anyway, which is why Floyd wanted
to RANDOM blood testing

 

[jackswstd]

Where there is smoke, there is fire but there's no ironclad proof just yet so I'd take this revelation with a grain of salt. BTW I believe he has used some kind of PED's.

 

[Black_Jesus]

So much suspicion for man NEVER linked to steroids

 

[Black_Jesus]

how do you if he was juicing through the shake, or if was even a shake, Roach didn't know what the hell it was so don't call it that
for all we know it could been something to get clean out his system to pass the urine test, which is an easy test to beat anyway, which is why Floyd wanted
to RANDOM blood testing

For all you know, the shake was nothing but proteins and carbohydrates.. Stop reaching

 

[Black_Jesus]

to juice via pills you would have to take a pro hormone and that has more negatives than positives for a boxer since the liver would be doing all the work. As far as anabolics you gotta inject/gel/pellet that and plants/herbs that are natural test boosters are banned in boxing and would come up in urine.

Especially, unlimited random urine tests.. which Pac agreed to

 

[krackdagawd]

how do you if he was juicing through the shake, or if was even a shake, Roach didn't know what the hell it was so don't call it that
for all we know it could been something to get clean out his system to pass the urine test, which is an easy test to beat anyway, which is why Floyd wanted
to RANDOM blood testing

That's fine and all but Roach said he didn't know what was in the shakes all I said is you can't "juice" via shakes which is right. The only anabolics you can ingest are pro hormones and that would fukk a boxer up bad. If the purpose of the shakes were to mask something then it would be to mask an INJECTION/PELLET/GEL and Roach didn't say anything about that.

 

[patscorpio]

That's fine and all but Roach said he didn't know what was in the shakes all I said is you can't "juice" via shakes which is right. The only anabolics you can ingest are pro hormones and that would fukk a boxer up bad. If the purpose of the shakes were to mask something then it would be to mask an INJECTION/PELLET/GEL and Roach didn't say anything about that.

drop that knowledge my fellow gym breh ...as ive said alot of nikkas that post in the Ring are very ignorant of what PEDs are and how they actually work

 

[krackdagawd]

drop that knowledge my fellow gym breh ...as ive said alot of nikkas that post in the Ring are very ignorant of what PEDs are and how they actually work

I'm not saying that Manny is clean because there's no way to know that(those calves can't be natural right? ) I just find it funny how Roach is saying this after he got his chest kicked in. If he really cares about Manny like he says he does he should be the first to know what Ariza was giving him.

 

[Carter G. Hoodson]

Sound like he's trynna protect his name in case something comes out

That's basically what it is. Because if Ariza future is on the line, he will spill it all.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

A big read, but the best article I have seen:
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-one
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-two

 

[Newzz]

“Mayweather is not doing Olympic-style testing,” Conte states. “I’ve never liked the use of that phrase. ‘Olympic’ means 24-7-365. To be effective, drug testing has to be 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. The benefits that an athlete retains from using anabolic steroids and certain other PEDs carry over for months. That means athletes can develop their strength and speed base early and the benefits of PED use will last after that use has been discontinued. If you wait to start testing until eight to 10 weeks in advance of a fight, which is what Mayweather does, that’s not Olympic-style testing. Who knows what Mayweather or his opponent has been doing during the previous six months?”

On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug.
More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).

In late-May, Pacquiao’s attorneys heard the rumor. On June 4, 2012, they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy and USADA calling for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto fights.
The documents were not produced. There was a delay in the proceedings while Floyd spent nine weeks in the Clark County Detention Center after pleading guilty to charges of domestic violence and harassment. Upon his release from jail on August 2nd, settlement talks heated up.

On September 25, 2012, a stipulation of settlement ending the defamation case was filed with the court. The parties agreed that the terms of settlement would be kept confidential. Prior to the agreement being signed, two sources with detailed knowledge of the proceedings told this writer that Mayweather’s initial monetary settlement offer was “substantially more” than Pacquiao’s attorneys had expected it would be and an agreement in principle was reached soon afterward.

“There was an earlier time when Golden Boy wouldn’t credential me for its fights because I sent out some tweets that Oscar didn’t like,” Gabriel Montoya recounts. “But I spoke with Schaefer and we worked past that. Then I started looking into the issue of Floyd’s drug tests. I got the threatening letter from Spitz, which I posted on Maxboxing. And I was banned again from Golden Boy fights.”

“The Erik Morales case is a travesty,” says Victor Conte. “Golden Boy and USADA seem to have made up a new set of rules without telling anyone what they are. What are the rules? Explain yourself, please! In ‘Olympic-style testing,’ you don’t have an ‘A’ sample and a ‘B’ sample test positive, and then another ‘A’ sample and ‘B’ sample test positive, and keep testing until you get a negative. What happened with Erik Morales should put everything that USADA and Golden Boy have done in boxing under a microscope. This is more than suspicious to me. It’s outrageous.”

As for what comes next, the signs aren’t promising. This Saturday (November 24th), Andre Berto will fight Robert Guerrero in Ontario, California, on a card promoted by Golden Boy.
Guerrero asked that the fighters be tested for PEDs by VADA. Walter Kane (Guerrero’s attorney) says that Richard Schaefer and Al Haymon (Berto’s manager) refused and would only allow testing by the California State Athletic Commission and USADA.

Guerrero had two options. He could accept USADA and a career-high payday or lose the payday.

“I’m not happy about it,” Kane says, “but in the end, we really didn’t have a choice. Golden Boy controls the purse strings, and they’re calling the shots.”

Meanwhile, Golden Boy is refusing to use a drug-testing agency that plays by the reporting rules (VADA) and is giving its business to an agency (USADA) that appears to have ceded a certain amount of reporting authority to the promoter.

Victor Conte says flatly, “I think the relationship between USADA and Golden Boy needs to be investigated.”

That Mayweather blood looking funny in the light?



Wow. Floyd/GBP HID Floyd's blood test results that Manny asked for and instead gave a lot more money for a settlement?

And then you got GBP fighters refusing to take anything other than USADA......even though VADA is the organization catching everyone nowadays

 

[Black_Jesus]

That Mayweather blood looking funny in the light?



Wow. Floyd/GBP HID Floyd's blood test results that Manny asked for and instead gave a lot more money for a settlement?

And then you got GBP fighters refusing to take anything other than USADA......even though VADA is the organization catching everyone nowadays

Dont suprise me one bit.....