Are you saying the players he has aren't good enough to produce an average offense through the yearsMaybe true but name some of those offensive weapons he couldve utilized better during those years?
You have to have great offensive players to be at least average offense?
I'm not saying they should be top 5 in offense but you have to be better than bottom tier for your coaching career
This team Has been talented enough to have an above average offense 1 year of his coaching career
Larry's boy McHale... :wavylol:
Sounds about right.
I thought Vogel cost them that series with his inexplicable move not to step on Toronto's throat in Game 5, but he was a good coach. Bringing in McHale and getting rid of Vogel is a lateral move at best
Are you saying the players he has aren't good enough to produce an average offense through the years
Y'all have to be kidding me.
Look at how much better Monte was in Carlisle offense Vogul
Yes and have been a travesty offensively every year afterThey were 7th in ORTG in 2011-12
let's see how they do without him
That's ridiculous. Vogel is a solid ass coach. I've always hated how execs fukk up a team worried about putting out a more fan friendly uptempo style when they don't have the personnel to play the style. Now they're going to bring in a lesser coach and try to run a faster style offense while losing more.
What great offensive players has he had
Vogel is a top 5 coach with a shytty roster
he is a top 10 coach. Does Bird just want a puppet?
Good coach and all the available jobs suck. Wouldn't be mad at Cleveland if they went after him
Monte Ellis? He's sucked everywhere
welp, Bird just deaded hiring McHale...
literally just thought that ... McHale a good coach..
Yes and have been a travesty offensively every year after