Former Pakistan PM Khan shot in assassination attempt

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If it hadn't have happened then a united India would be the most dangerous country in the world today by far. As it stands India is already in the top 3 or 5 (I forget exactly) most dangerous countries in the world for terrorist attacks. If the Muslims didn't have their own few independent provinces in the east and west of this united India, the terrorist threat pushing for separation would be so much worse than it already is.

The ultimate goal of Islamist terrorists in Pakistan and India is the realisation a so-called prophecy they call 'Ghazwa-e-Hind,' the complete Islamic conquest of India followed by the complete extermination of all non-Muslims who reside there. They will not stop with creating a separate Kashmiri state. That doesn't matter to them. What they want is a genocide of the whole subcontinent. It's a prophecy. They feel that it must be done in order to usher in the End Times and all that shyt. Geopolitics is completely irrelevant to the theological framework under which they operate. This is why they attack the Pakistani government and civilians with the same force that they attack the Indians.

They are just like the organisations in the Palestinian dispute. Fatah, Hamas and Hezbollah don't care about Israel, they care about a genocide of every non-Muslim in what they call "the land of the Al-Aqsa mosque." They will not stop merely at destroying the Israeli state. It doesn't matter to them.

So there's no question of concession or appeasement. Surrendering Pakistan did nothing, and surrendering Kashmir will do nothing. Frankly it is for the best that there is a border between Pakistan and India, it helps keep some of the terrorist problem on their side of the border.
:russ: STFU Hindu fukk boy, aint you cow piss drinkers exterminating Muslims in India right now? fukking clown
 

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If it hadn't have happened then a united India would be the most dangerous country in the world today by far. As it stands India is already in the top 3 or 5 (I forget exactly) most dangerous countries in the world for terrorist attacks. If the Muslims didn't have their own few independent provinces in the east and west of this united India, the terrorist threat pushing for separation would be so much worse than it already is.

The ultimate goal of Islamist terrorists in Pakistan and India is the realisation a so-called prophecy they call 'Ghazwa-e-Hind,' the complete Islamic conquest of India followed by the complete extermination of all non-Muslims who reside there. They will not stop with creating a separate Kashmiri state. That doesn't matter to them. What they want is a genocide of the whole subcontinent. It's a prophecy. They feel that it must be done in order to usher in the End Times and all that shyt. Geopolitics is completely irrelevant to the theological framework under which they operate. This is why they attack the Pakistani government and civilians with the same force that they attack the Indians.

They are just like the organisations in the Palestinian dispute. Fatah, Hamas and Hezbollah don't care about Israel, they care about a genocide of every non-Muslim in what they call "the land of the Al-Aqsa mosque." They will not stop merely at destroying the Israeli state. It doesn't matter to them.

So there's no question of concession or appeasement. Surrendering Pakistan did nothing, and surrendering Kashmir will do nothing. Frankly it is for the best that there is a border between Pakistan and India, it helps keep some of the terrorist problem on their side of the border.
Most of the radicalism in Pakistan is driven by the fact that they are a poor country at least relative to India...Maybe if they were part of India, the economic might of India would have helped reduce the radicalism. I don't have the answers, this is just my take. The problems in Pakistan will only get worse because they do not have the economy to survive as a country and they cannot keep on relying on handouts and foreign aid.

I also see the other side of the argument since some radical Muslims want to see the conquest of India based on some hadiths. So in a way India has some buffer in terms of security with Pakistan being a separate country.


It was narrated that Thawban, the freed slave of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), said:
"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'There are two groups of my Ummah whom Allah will free from the Fire: The group that invades India, and the group that will be with 'Isa bin Maryam, peace be upon him


This a fantasy. India is a nuclear armed state....they wouldn't dare invade.
 

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:russ: STFU Hindu fukk boy, aint you cow piss drinkers exterminating Muslims in India right now? fukking clown

And aren't you Muslims driving cars into crowds, murdering cartoonists, and blowing yourselves up all over the world? Drop the moral high ground. You haven't got any, you fukking imbecile.

Everything I said is true, it's right there in your Islamic teachings that an jihadist army will rise in Jerusalem and march on India in order to slaughter all the infidels, and that this event must happen in order for the end of the world to happen.


Next time you dare summon up the courage to reply to me, you fukking animal, prove me wrong on anything I have said in this thread. You can't because everything is 100% true. So shut the fukk up and deal with the truth. It isn't mine or anyone else's responsibility that the Muslims who subscribe to such ideas exist, it's yours. Clean your own pig sty out first before making deflections at others.

Most of the radicalism in Pakistan is driven by the fact that they are a poor country at least relative to India...Maybe if they were part of India, the economic might of India would have helped reduce the radicalism. I don't have the answers, this is just my take. The problems in Pakistan will only get worse because they do not have the economy to survive as a country and they cannot keep on relying on handouts and foreign aid.

I also see the other side of the argument since some radical Muslims want to see the conquest of India based on some hadiths. So in a way India has some buffer in terms of security with Pakistan being a separate country.


It was narrated that Thawban, the freed slave of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), said:
"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'There are two groups of my Ummah whom Allah will free from the Fire: The group that invades India, and the group that will be with 'Isa bin Maryam, peace be upon him


This a fantasy. India is a nuclear armed state....they wouldn't dare invade.

From independence to 1990 Pakistan had the better economy, better development, and better social outcomes between itself and India. The influx of the Salafist and Wahabbist ideology post-1990 is what derailed Pakistan. Islam is responsible for Pakistan's degeneration into a failed state, and the same disease would have taken India down as well had it not been for partition.
 
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Considering how Hindus are treating Muslims, I’m not sure either is a great solution.

If Pakistan/Bangladesh were still part of India, the Muslims would be a far larger voting block and would likely have been able to partner with Congress and others to keep the Hindu Nationalists out of power indefinitely.




If it hadn't have happened then a united India would be the most dangerous country in the world today by far. As it stands India is already in the top 3 or 5 (I forget exactly) most dangerous countries in the world for terrorist attacks.

There are nearly 200 million Muslims in India, yet the vast majority of terrorist attacks coming from within the country are either Hindu supremacists, upper caste and landlord-organized violence against lower-caste/untouchables and tenants, or pseudo-Maoist movements. Actual Indian Muslims are a miniscule % of the violence.

Outside of disputed Kashmir, the Muslim-based terrorist attacks in India largely come from Pakistan or Pakistani-based groups. If partition had never happened, I don't think you can predict those would be worse - more likely they would be much less common. Until the 1940s the calls for partition were miniscule and didn't even have meaningful support within India's Muslim population, so projecting that they would be the leading concern 75 years later if not for what happened in '47 is a huge assumption.




And some of that anti-Muslim bullshyt you went on is wilding, get outside breh, the Hindu extremism around you must be a bit suffocating right now. :mjlol:
 

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And aren't you Muslims driving cars into crowds, murdering cartoonists, and blowing yourselves up all over the world? Drop the moral high ground. You haven't got any, you fukking imbecile.

Everything I said is true, it's right there in your Islamic teachings that an jihadist army will rise in Jerusalem and march on India in order to slaughter all the infidels, and that this event must happen in order for the end of the world to happen.


Next time you dare summon up the courage to reply to me, you fukking animal, prove me wrong on anything I have said in this thread. You can't because everything is 100% true. So shut the fukk up and deal with the truth. It isn't mine or anyone else's responsibility that the Muslims who subscribe to such ideas exist, it's yours. Clean your own pig sty out first before making deflections at others.
:mjlol: Got you all up in your feelings fakkit :lolbron:

"Summon up the courage"? :mjlol: You better check yourself calling anyone an animal - for your own sake, you might get confused and start worshipping me and drinking my piss :ufdup:. I notice you not denying drinking cow piss :scust: Filthy fukk

You ascribing this Al Qaeda bullshyt is akin to ascribing KKK values to Christianity . . The difference is Hindu fundamentalist nutjobs murdering Muslims, Sikhs etc are the ones running India. You are a fukking clown, probably high on cow piss right now, take a break and clear your head Apu:ufdup:
 
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