For Real This Time. Canelo Vs. GGG Part 2. #NoExcuses Edition. Sept 15th 2018.

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GGG got robbed the first fight. How sad that even with PEDs Canelo could only get a draw :russ:


PEDS and a crooked judge. I know Trout, Lara, and others are looking him funny. That cross dressing coke sniffing Mexican is the real problem though. Him and his company.
 

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PEDS and a crooked judge. I know Trout, Lara, and others are looking him funny. That cross dressing coke sniffing Mexican is the real problem though. Him and his company.

Canelo got his first title shot, a vacant belt against Matthew Hatton who never even fought in the division.

Open scoring in his first step up fight against Austin Trout.

Got a draw against Floyd on one card in a fight he was embarrassed in.

Had wide scores in a fight he lost to Lara.

Fought in a made up weight class just for himself that the sanctioning bodies don’t recognized as legit.

Got a draw in a fight he should have lost against Golovkin.

Now has a failed drug test that likely will be swept under the rug.


The favoritism :francis:
 

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Canelo got his first title shot, a vacant belt against Matthew Hatton who never even fought in the division.

Open scoring in his first step up fight against Austin Trout.

Got a draw against Floyd on one card in a fight he was embarrassed in.

Had wide scores in a fight he lost to Lara.

Fought in a made up weight class just for himself that the sanctioning bodies don’t recognized as legit.

Got a draw in a fight he should have lost against Golovkin.

Now has a failed drug test that likely will be swept under the rug.


The favoritism :francis:


Exactly!!!
 

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i have no problem with any of the candidates

derevyanchenko is good because it gets rid of a pesky IBF mandatory
andrade is a good choice because he finally gets a showcase to show the talent he has..providence will be lit if he actually pulls it off
BJS of course its because it would be for all the belts plus another zero to take
jacobs because although it was close...he was clearly defeated...cant be sinking to your knees at the end of the fight like that..maybe he will learn a lesson and come harder (pause :dame:)
 

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This fight is not being cancelled...

Too much money on the line to do that...This hearing is all show to make it look like the Nevada's commission takes doping seriously...

The doping agency that did the testing already said in their statement the levels of clen found in Canelos failed tests were consistent with meat contamination that EVERYONE knows is an issue in Mexico...

What the commission wants to know and I myself want answered, is why would Canelo, a multi-millionare athlete risk eating meat from Mexico for a fight of this magnitude? He went through the same testing last time and had no issues so what changed this time? Could of easily had his meat imported from the states to avoid all this...
 
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This fight is not being cancelled...

Too much money on the line to do that...This hearing is all show to make it look like the Nevada's commission takes doping seriously...

The doping agency that dis the testing already said it their statement the levels of clen found in Canelos failed tests were consistent with meat contamination that EVERYONE knows is an issue in Mexico...

What the commission wants to know and I myself want answered, is why would Canelo, a multi-millionare athlete risk eating meat from Mexico for a fight of this magnitude? Could of easily had his meat imported from the states...
Breh u can take Clenbuterol in pill form and it reach therapeutic level and u will STILL not be in the levels canelo was, I mean there very close. As u can see, u can take the pill form all day and blame it on meat. I have science to prove that.

On the fight being canceled, I’m with u on it’s too much money but fat dan says he talks to those people so I’m assuming he’s right.
 

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Breh u can take Clenbuterol in pill form and it reach therapeutic level and u will STILL not be in the levels canelo was, I mean there very close. As u can see, u can take the pill form all day and blame it on meat. I have science to prove that.

On the fight being canceled, I’m with u on it’s too much money but fat dan says he talks to those people so I’m assuming he’s right.
Breh take your alternative facts and :camby:

I don't listen to internet nikkas and their fugazi numbers they don't understand how to calculate which you were exposed with in the other thread...I can bump those posts...

The facts are we have a statement from licensed doctor(s) involved with the testing confirming the levels of clen found in Canelo were consistent with meat contamination which is a well known problem in Mexcio where Canelo was training...
 

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Breh take your alternative facts and :camby:

I don't listen to internet nikkas and their fugazi numbers they don't understand how to calculate which you were exposed with in the other thread...I can bump those posts...

The facts are we have a statement from licensed doctor(s) involved with the testing confirming the levels of clen found in Canelo were consistent with meat contamination which is a well known problem in Mexcio where Canelo was training...
No need to play guessing games. Just have Canelo submit a hair sample and we will see if he is telling the truth. :sas2:
 

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Breh take your alternative facts and :camby:

I don't listen to internet nikkas and their fugazi numbers they don't understand how to calculate which you were exposed with in the other thread...I can bump those posts...

The facts are we have a statement from licensed doctor(s) involved with the testing confirming the levels of clen found in Canelo were consistent with meat contamination which is a well known problem in Mexcio where Canelo was training...

Alternative facts :what:

Pharmacokinetics of plasma and urine clenbuterol in man, rat, and rabbit. - PubMed - NCBI

"Therapeutic dose (20, 40 and 80 micrograms/man) of clenbuterol hydrochloride, a beta 2-adrenergic stimulant, was orally administered to healthy volunteers, and the unmetabolized drug in plasma and urine was determined by enzyme immunoassay. The plasma levels of clenbuterol reached the maximum value of 0.1, 0.2 and 0.35 ng/ml, respectively, in a dose-dependent manner within 2.5 h, which lasted for over 6 h after the administration. The half-life of clenbuterol in plasma was estimated to be about 35 h. When the drug was orally administered repeatedly to men twice a day, the plasma level reached the plateau within 4 d after the initial administration. At that time, the plasma levels of the unchanged form were 0.2 to 0.3 ng/ml and 0.5 to 0.6 ng/ml at doses of 20 and 40 micrograms/man, respectively. The bound ratio of the drug to plasma protein was estimated to be 89-98% at a single administration of 80 micrograms of the drug. The cumulative urinary excretion of unchanged compound corresponded to about 20% of the administered dose as measured at 72 h following a single oral administration. "
 

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Alternative facts :what:

Pharmacokinetics of plasma and urine clenbuterol in man, rat, and rabbit. - PubMed - NCBI

"Therapeutic dose (20, 40 and 80 micrograms/man) of clenbuterol hydrochloride, a beta 2-adrenergic stimulant, was orally administered to healthy volunteers, and the unmetabolized drug in plasma and urine was determined by enzyme immunoassay. The plasma levels of clenbuterol reached the maximum value of 0.1, 0.2 and 0.35 ng/ml, respectively, in a dose-dependent manner within 2.5 h, which lasted for over 6 h after the administration. The half-life of clenbuterol in plasma was estimated to be about 35 h. When the drug was orally administered repeatedly to men twice a day, the plasma level reached the plateau within 4 d after the initial administration. At that time, the plasma levels of the unchanged form were 0.2 to 0.3 ng/ml and 0.5 to 0.6 ng/ml at doses of 20 and 40 micrograms/man, respectively. The bound ratio of the drug to plasma protein was estimated to be 89-98% at a single administration of 80 micrograms of the drug. The cumulative urinary excretion of unchanged compound corresponded to about 20% of the administered dose as measured at 72 h following a single oral administration. "
:sas1: you initially posted an article which claimed one of the tests was not possible from meat contamination though.

so Is it oochie wally or is it one mic? :umad:
 
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