For Competitors Only .:. The Official 2017 Miami Heat Off-Season Thread

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Browsing cacgm for more draft stuff, cant believe this homo @skolnickrelated is still on his passive aggressive bytching wave, yall should see that shyt, just check every thread for the user "hallstar". I just might have to take him off ignore on draft night to laugh at his reaction here
 

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Browsing cacgm for more draft stuff, cant believe this homo @skolnickrelated is still on his passive aggressive bytching wave, yall should see that shyt, just check every thread for the user "hallstar". I just might have to take him off ignore on draft night to laugh at his reaction here
skolnickrelated :russ:
 

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Looking at the draft stuff and it feels like we were at every pro prospects workout or invited them for a work out. I appreciate their due diligence. It's going to be hard to guess who they are really targeting. I think they are leaning towards the best available regardless of position. They also continued to bring in a lot of undrafted guys as well so it's unlikely that they will trade into the 2nd round.

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Heat summons to Miami some guards and small forwards that intrigue them
BY BARRY JACKSON

bjackson@miamiherald.com

Even though the Heat has only one draft pick, 14th in the first round, Miami has booked private workouts with more than a dozen players considered outside that range – either late first-rounders, second-rounders or players who could go undrafted.

And among swingmen, count FSU’s Dwayne Bacon among players who have piqued Miami’s interest.

Heat President Pat Riley and executives from other teams watched Bacon and several others during a recent workout arranged by his agency, Roc Nation.

But the Heat wanted a second look and summoned Bacon to team headquarters Thursday for a workout also featuring one potential Heat first-round pick at No. 14 (T.J. Leaf) and several other prospects projected to go lower.

Hoopshype.com has Bacon going 25th in the first round; others have him coming off the board in the second round.


Miami could acquire a second-round pick, with up to $3 million available to forward to another team in exchange.

Bacon, 6-7, averaged 17.2 points, 4.2 rebounds and one steal in 28.8 minutes as an FSU sophomore this past season. He shot 45.2 percent from the field and 33.3 percent on threes (57 for 171).

He needs to improve his ball-handling; he had 70 turnovers, 61 assists last season.

“Bacon had a strong freshman season as a scorer, but he didn't show enough improvement in his sophomore year to give his draft stock a major lift,” ESPN’s Chad Ford said. “He's a good athlete and can take over games, but his jump shot is streaky, and he doesn't have elite size for his position. He's in the Nos. 40-50 range.”

According to hoophype.com’s Alex Kennedy, “Bacon’s stock has been on the rise throughout the pre-draft process. Prior to the Roc Nation Sports Pro Day, he turned heads at the NBA combine in Chicago. He measured in at just over 6-foot-6, with a 6-foot-10 wingspan and 8-foot-7.5 standing reach. His 10-inch hands also stood out, as they were the widest of any small forward this year’s combine.

“At the combine, Bacon also performed very well in the event’s athletic tests. Among the small forwards at the combine, Bacon ranked second in the agility drill (11.7 seconds), second in the sprint drill (3.22 seconds) and third in the max vertical test (36.5 inches).”

Bacon told Kennedy: “I definitely feel like I’m ready to make a day-one impact in the NBA. I don’t back down from that. That’s one of the reasons why I went back to school this past year, so I could be more prepared. Rather than leaving school after my freshman year and getting picked based on my potential, I wanted to return and prepare more. Now, I feel like I’m NBA-ready. I can give a team whatever they need right now.”

Among other potential second-round (or undrafted) small forwards/shooting guards who have been scheduled for private Heat workouts at AmericanAirlines Arena, according to sources close to the players:

• Notre Dame’s 6-8 forward V.J. Beachem: 14.5 ppg as a senior, 42.2 percent shooting, 36.1 percent on threes – 87 for 241. A four-year player for the Fighting Irish.

• South Carolina’s 6-6 shooting guard P.J. Dozier: 13.9 ppg, 4.8 rebounds, 40.7 percent shooting, but 29.8 percent on threes last season (42-141).

• Indiana 6-4 shooting guard James Blackmon: 17.0 ppg as a junior last season, 47.7 percent from the field and 42.3 percent on threes (91 for 215).

• Ohio State 6-6 swingman Marc Loving: 12.3 ppg as a senior. Shot 41.7 percent from the field and 38.2 percent on threes (58 for 152).

• SMU 6-6 swingman Sterling Brown: 13.4 ppg, 6.5 rebounds per game as a senior. Shot 46.9 percent from the field, 44.9 percent on threes (61-136).

• DePaul 6-5 shooting guard Billy Garrett Jr.: 14.9 ppg as a senior. Shot just 38.8 percent overall and 36.3 on threes (41-133).

• Cal 6-6 swingman Jabari Bird: 14.3 ppg as a senior. Shot 44.0 percent and 36.5 percent on threes (65-178).

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I like Bacon's confidence. I hope we can get him somehow.
 

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Nah breh, they not gonna draft anyone at 14 that they didnt workout personally. Giles either got a promise from someone ahead of us or got scared away.
Yeah my second thought was he probably got scared away too.
 

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Browsing cacgm for more draft stuff, cant believe this homo @skolnickrelated is still on his passive aggressive bytching wave, yall should see that shyt, just check every thread for the user "hallstar". I just might have to take him off ignore on draft night to laugh at his reaction here

Y'all just want to see the Heat shine again, let's end this beef. :beli:

So you guys agree we need to move dragic? :beli:

It only makes sense to move him if you're rebuilding, you're getting an equal or better pg at Dragic's price.
 

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Browsing cacgm for more draft stuff, cant believe this homo @skolnickrelated is still on his passive aggressive bytching wave, yall should see that shyt, just check every thread for the user "hallstar". I just might have to take him off ignore on draft night to laugh at his reaction here
This fakkit loves my dikk....I'm consistent with my vision for the Heat, you're the jackass talking about "trading up" in a fukking draft where we had a top 5 pick at one point and have to discuss the pros of fukking TJ Leaf. Our young talent ain't worth shyt to anybody else at the moment.

It took @Malta in March to explain to this idiot what I said in October

You're too stupid to diss me
 
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Wake Forest’s Collins a power forward throwback with intriguing potential for Heat at pick 14
BY MANNY NAVARRO

mnavarro@miamiherald.com

The worst thing for an actor in Hollywood is to be typecast.

Wake Forest sophomore John Collins has spent the last couple months trying to avoid the same fate by convincing NBA teams he’s more than just a 6-10, 225-pound post player.

In today’s stretch-the-floor, three-point crazed NBA, being defined as a throwback power forward who camps himself out in the lane is a sin.

“What I try to show in every work out is my versatility – how versatile I am and can possibly be,” Collins said last week after a workout with the Detroit Pistons.

“I had a specific role at Wake, and I did that role specifically. I think teams want to see what else I can do... more than just staying in the post up all the time. It’s stepping out and expanding my range, shooting the three, handling a little bit, showing my passing lanes.”


If Collins, who took and missed his one and only three-point shot last season, proved to the Miami Heat during his private workout on Wednesday he can be a more versatile player than the one advertised on scouting reports, the 19-year-old former West Palm Beach Cardinal Newman High School standout could become a steal for Pat Riley with the 14th selection in Thursday night’s NBA Draft.

Tabbed a three-star recruit and the 230th best player in the 2015 recruiting class by 247Sports, Collins took a major step forward in his development last season at Wake Forest under coach Danny Manning, one of the best college power forwards ever and a two-time All-Star with the Los Angeles Clippers.

In 33 games last season at Wake, Collins averaged 19.2 points, 9.8 rebounds, 1.6 blocks and shot 62.4 percent from the field en route to being named the Atlantic Coast Conference’s Most Improved Player and the runner-up for the league’s player of the year award to North Carolina’s Justin Jackson.

On most nights last season, Collins faced double and triple teams and yet continued to produce.

Most impressively, perhaps, Collins led the nation in Player Efficiency Rating, a stat derived by ESPN’s John Hollinger to measure a player’s overall statistical impact on a per-minute scale by also taking into account pace.

A PER of 15.0 is the league average. Last season, Heat center Hassan Whiteside, the league’s rebounding champion, had a PER of 22.68, which ranked 26th overall. Russell Westbrook, who set an NBA record for triple-doubles in a season, led the league with a PER of 30.70.

Collins’ PER of 35.93 was actually better than those of All-Star big men Anthony Davis (35.13) and DeMarcus Cousins (34.18) when they led college basketball in the respective category in 2012 and 2010.

“The biggest things I’ve taken from [coach Manning] are positioning and easy buckets,” Collins said last month at the NBA Draft Combine in Chicago.

“He always tells me I don’t necessarily have to have the ball to score. I can set a screen real hard and get easy buckets, run the floor real hard. He’s also teaching me how to use my body because I was a little bit foul plagued my freshman year. For me to come back my second year and stay out of foul trouble offensively and defensively was great.”

If the Heat decide to draft Collins it would also be a nice homecoming story. Before he chose to play for the Demon Deacons over the hometown Miami Hurricanes, Collins grew up going to Heat games during the Big Three era.

His mother, Lyria, a former sergeant in the Air Force, told the Palm Beach Post her son still has Dwyane Wade’s Heat jerseys hanging in his closet at home.

“Yeah, I was a big Heat fan,” Collins said last month at the combine. “That Big Three era was the era I got to witness fully and got to see play out. It was big for me to watch LeBron [James] and D-Wade and [Chris Bosh] take over South Beach.”

Now, Palm Beach County’s High School Player of the Year in 2015 according to the Sun-Sentinel and Post could be ready to do the same.

As it stands, NBA Draft Express has the Heat taking Collins, USA Today has him going a pick later to the Portland Trail Blazers and ESPN has him going 16th to the Chicago Bulls. So, he’s very much in play for the Heat with the 14th pick.

“That would be really cool,” Collins replied last month when asked what it would mean to him to play for the Heat. “Being a big fan of Pat’s, that would be really cool to meet with him.”

 
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