For Competitors Only .:. The Official 2017 Miami Heat Off-Season Thread

[Malta]

Both of em?

Cavs want a blue chip young player and the ability to still contend right now.

Kings are already offering Fox

 

[Primetime21]

Winslow aint going nowhere for nobody

 

[Sauce Dab]

 

[He Who Posts Well]

Dude is a good passer. We shall see how he develops.

 

[intruder]

Winslow aint going nowhere for nobody

I'll cosign that for now but this is his last year to prove himself worthy of the untouchable status

 

[HiphopRelated]

I mean do people think they'd get him for Dragic and Richardson or something? 25 yr old all-star with 2 yrs left on his deal gonna be Winslow and Adebayos name in any trade for him.

Just the truth, it's not like we can throw in picks

 

[HiphopRelated]

Winslow aint going nowhere for nobody

Nah, for Kyrie, Riley would drive him to the airport

We have long contracts that won't be that attractive. I was against signing dudes over 2 years for that reason.

I mean even if he became Caron Butler, Kyrie> prime Butler

I would like to see what we have in Adebayo though(aka no trade), since that could bring Whiteside into the trade market, which would be by far our best chip. We need cheap productive contracts to become a contender.

 

[Primetime21]

Nah, for Kyrie, Riley would drive him to the airport

We have long contracts that won't be that attractive. I was against signing dudes over 2 years for that reason.

I mean even if he became Caron Butler, Kyrie> prime Butler

I would like to see what we have in Adebayo though(aka no trade), since that could bring Whiteside into the trade market, which would be by far our best chip. We need cheap productive contracts to become a contender.

They would move TJ and Rich before they moved one Winslow

 

[Primetime21]

 

[HiphopRelated]

They would move TJ and Rich before they moved one Winslow

fair enough, but would that be a competitive package for Kyrie

 

[Alexander The Great]

fair enough, but would that be a competitive package for Kyrie

hell no truth is, those "assets" ain't shyt unless you have a desperate team. should've tanked.

News that disgruntled Cavaliers star Kyrie Irving listed the Heat among four preferred destinations in his recent trade request has raised Heat fans’ hopes about a possible trade for the All-Star guard.

And while the possibility certainly cannot be ruled out, the Heat does not have considerable optimism about being able to strike a deal, multiple league sources said.

One Eastern Conference official who spoke to the Heat said Miami considers itself something of a long shot.

Regardless of the Heat’s level of interest – and Miami always inquires when a star player is available - the Heat at this point does not view a deal as very likely, barring a change of heart by Cleveland. Miami’s best chance would be if suitors with more appealing assets can’t strike a deal and the Cavaliers circle back to Miami.


Phoenix and Minnesota are among particularly strong candidates to pull off a trade for Irving, according to one league source.

And the in 22-year-old Andrew Wiggins (23.6 ppg last season) and 27-year-old Eric Bledsoe (21.1 points, 6.3 assists), the Wolves and Suns have the type of emerging, highly-skilled young wing players that Miami lacks.

What about Justise Winslow? ESPN’s Zach Lowe offers a dead-on assessment of his value in this interesting piece outlining potential trade options, noting:

“Miami could save Cleveland money by offering [Goran] Dragic, Wayne Ellington, and Justise Winslow for [Iman] Shumpert and Irving, but Cleveland would likely turn up its nose unless the market proves cool. Miami cannot trade any first-round pick that's earlier than its 2023 selection. After two bricky, injury-riddled seasons, Winslow has to play his way back into blue-chip status. LeBron has little use for non-centers who can't shoot.”

 

[Pito]

Minnesota isn't trading Wiggins for Kyrie. The only reason they would take Bledsoe back is the Klutch connection but even then that would be redundant considering they just got Rose.

People on twitter have mentioned trading Hassan for Kyrie

 

[Primetime21]

hell no truth is, those "assets" ain't shyt unless you have a desperate team. should've tanked.

All depends on how much pressure Kyrie and his agent put on teams to stay true to his preferred destinations list. Other teams could have signficantly better offers that the Cavs might like but if the agent is telling those teams he's out after 2 years, they may not be willing to part ways with their blue chip prospects. The tanking thing is stale, If we tanked we wouldnt have the assets to enter the Kyrie conversation, at the same time we wouldn't have selected a player that steers us into championship contention over the next 2 years either.

 

[Primetime21]

Maybe it’s LeBron, too? Maybe he’s a big part of the problem? Maybe his demands — like having his inner associates be part of the team, his desire to travel by himself at times and regularly treat his Cleveland teammates as second-tier — is at issue, too?

Maybe, just maybe, the Heat got this part right?

Here’s a story: LeBron once wanted to stay over after an away game with the Heat and meet the team the next day in the next city. Heat president Pat Riley said no. LeBron got upset. Riley said that’s no way to lead a team. LeBron was still upset about that and other similar items on his way out the door to Cleveland.

Another story: LeBron insisted reserve James Jones play more with the Heat. Everyone loves Jones. But he wasn’t a championship-level player, especially on defense. In LeBron’s final Heat season, Jones played late in a game and hit some shots. “Great coaching, Spo,’’ James kept yelling from the bench.

Everyone inside the team knew it wasn’t a compliment of Heat coach Erik Spoelstra. It was a mocking of him. It was the best player belittling the coach by saying this should be done every night.

Hyde: With Irving as proof, was Heat right in dealings with LeBron? | Commentary

The winning is cool but at the same time I call a spade a spade. I'm glad the passive aggressive prima donna era with this team is over and I'm not just talking about 23.

 

[He Who Posts Well]

I only really care about what happens on the court. They gave us the best 4 years in Heat history. I don't see the point of brining up all this other stuff