We never gonna tank while Riley here so u better get prepared not to tank or go kick it with yo lwo homiesBeing ass that year and getting Bagley, RJ Barrett following suit in 2020.
For Competitors Only .:. The Official 2017 Miami Heat Off-Season Thread
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Q: The Heat are capped out with "above average" talent for a few years. Is the plan to tread water as No. 6 seed, a la the Memphis Grizzlies? -- Evan.
A: Are we actually sold on "above average"? Put it this way, the mailbox was overrun Thursday with questions about three $50 million-plus contracts to Kelly Olynyk, Dion Waiters and James Johnson. All are nice players, but none likely to emerge as an All-Star. Of course, some of that simply is the price of doing business in today's NBA, as evidenced by Tim Hardaway Jr. getting 50 percent more than these three Heat deals on his offer sheet from the Knicks. Then again, there was plenty of scoffing last summer when the Heat added Johnson, Waiters, Luke Babbitt, Wayne Ellington and, yes, Derrick Williams. The difference is these are four-year deals as opposed to those one year deals. The Heat not only locked themselves in for 2017-18, but also for '18-19 and '19-20, at the least. And all of that with Tyler Johnson going up to $19 million on the final two years of his deal starting in 2018-19. So you're talking $200 million in contracts for Olynyk, Waiters and a pair of Johnsons. With last summer's signings, the evaluation period was for a year. Now? This is your team going forward. And, frankly, it seemingly would have to overachieve for a quality seed. We shall see.
A: Are we actually sold on "above average"? Put it this way, the mailbox was overrun Thursday with questions about three $50 million-plus contracts to Kelly Olynyk, Dion Waiters and James Johnson. All are nice players, but none likely to emerge as an All-Star. Of course, some of that simply is the price of doing business in today's NBA, as evidenced by Tim Hardaway Jr. getting 50 percent more than these three Heat deals on his offer sheet from the Knicks. Then again, there was plenty of scoffing last summer when the Heat added Johnson, Waiters, Luke Babbitt, Wayne Ellington and, yes, Derrick Williams. The difference is these are four-year deals as opposed to those one year deals. The Heat not only locked themselves in for 2017-18, but also for '18-19 and '19-20, at the least. And all of that with Tyler Johnson going up to $19 million on the final two years of his deal starting in 2018-19. So you're talking $200 million in contracts for Olynyk, Waiters and a pair of Johnsons. With last summer's signings, the evaluation period was for a year. Now? This is your team going forward. And, frankly, it seemingly would have to overachieve for a quality seed. We shall see.
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I rather them try to compete than to straight up tank. Together the deals seem bad but individually we got each player at a good rate compared to the market. That should help if we ever need to trade a piece or two. Free agency is a crap shoot now so holding onto cap space hoping someone will come along is pointless. Its all about relationships nowadays. They gave themselves a four year window to compete so let's see what happens. If it fails we can always start all over. 
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didn't this team overachieve last year?
95% of yall in here were screaming 20-30 wins max and that the squad wouldn't sniff the playoffs. this team was an injury away from winning 45-48 games last year.
barring injury, Miami will finish top 5 in the East.
95% of yall in here were screaming 20-30 wins max and that the squad wouldn't sniff the playoffs. this team was an injury away from winning 45-48 games last year.
barring injury, Miami will finish top 5 in the East.
Johnson's deal is cool but I fear for the later years. He's 30 now. Don't see him keeping up this level of production for 4 years. They should have given him 2 +team option on the 3rd
Not too comfortable with Deions deal but I guess it's the price of doing business in the NBA these days. Think about it this way:Tim Hardaway Jr. Got $72M so I guess $52M for Dion ain't much of a stretch
The Olynyc deal bothers me quite a bit but I'll chalk this one up to #trustTheProcess and hope Riley and his crew know what they are doing.
I hope Whiteside ain't the type to hold grudges like me because from what I recall he and Olynyc fought in a game didn't they?
Not too comfortable with Deions deal but I guess it's the price of doing business in the NBA these days. Think about it this way:Tim Hardaway Jr. Got $72M so I guess $52M for Dion ain't much of a stretch
The Olynyc deal bothers me quite a bit but I'll chalk this one up to #trustTheProcess and hope Riley and his crew know what they are doing.
I hope Whiteside ain't the type to hold grudges like me because from what I recall he and Olynyc fought in a game didn't they?
Wait... Is Josh Richardson's salary quadrupling from the 2017 to 2018 season? This can't be right
That 2018-19 salary
I think its his projection if he's offered an extensionWait... Is Josh Richardson's salary quadrupling from the 2017 to 2018 season? This can't be right
I had high hopes on this one but it was doomed from the start
That's where I have us as of today. Even if we did nothing this summer we easily passed up Indy, Chicago, and Atlanta (its a travesty 2 of those teams got in the playoffs over us last year). After Cleveland and Boston were right there with Toronto - Washington - Milwaukee. I think we'll be better than at least 2 of them, maybe all 3 when its all said and done.
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We running out of picks to give out. I love it
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Fair point, I think the seeding is irrelevant, because I can see us beating everyone in the East sans Cleveland; Milwaukee, and Washington.
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