Floyd Money Mayweather: Why should I donate money to Africa? What has Africa done for me?

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The point is that we have no choice given the circumstances.
Bullshyt. Blacks can choice to buy/sale/produce with other blacks in the diaspora yet don't. We don't have a choice with everything but we have a choice with that.
 

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look, your point is tiresome but i get it.


if we had an all-black version of america, with the exact same land, resources, businesses, opportunities; and black people still chose the white america, it would mean black people really do want to asemilate w/whites.

but under this current structure, blacks will ALWAYS be 'coerced' into choosing the "greener side." you basically want to remove all accountability and excuse blacks who choose to flee into the burbs.

You don't have a good grasp on capitalism as it pertains to minorities :manny:


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good god this is p*ssy talk. :pacspit:

blacks have the choice, they just choose the path of least resistance


capitalism
means of labor
race
individualism vs collectivism

I want you to read up on this and understand why we have no choice UNTIL we get our raw numbers up or somehow magically awaken every AA even if Whites try to subvert


Bullshyt. Blacks can choice to buy/sale/produce with other blacks in the diaspora yet don't. We don't have a choice with everything but we have a choice with that.

Culture starts the moment you exit the womb.
 

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You don't have a good grasp on capitalism as it pertains to minorities :manny:





capitalism
means of labor
race
individualism vs collectivism

I want you to read up on this and understand why we have no choice UNTIL we get our raw numbers up or somehow magically awaken every AA even if Whites try to subvert


:heh: okay, lets try it your way. we've been about 12-14% of the population in US for how long now? how do you suppose we magically get our #s up to challenge white supremacy? we still waiting on the africans to come over here, right?
 

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:heh: okay, lets try it your way. we've been about 12-14% of the population in US for how long now? how do you suppose we magically get our #s up to challenge white supremacy? we still waiting on the africans to come over here, right?

Its our best shot and no we wouldn't wait, we'd coalesce and form Super PACs for increased African immigration. If we can donate to Mr. Umar Johnson or Creflo Dollar then we can create PACs and lobby groups. That seems more likely than all Blacks suddenly becoming insular.
 

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Culture starts the moment you exit the womb.
Of course. This is why blacks would engineer their own culture by way of political lobbies, group economics and establishing our own independent media. That's called a solution.

But of course, this is the part where you say 'We can't do that because..."
 

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Of course. This is why blacks would engineer their own culture by way of political lobbies, group economics and establishing our own independent media. That's called a solution.

But of course, this is the part where you say 'We can't do that because..."

Read the post above you.
 

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Its our best shot and no we wouldn't wait, we'd coalesce and form Super PACs for increased African immigration. If we can donate to Mr. Umar Johnson or Creflo Dollar then we can create PACs and lobby groups. That seems more likely than all Blacks suddenly becoming insular.

so the poitier plan is a.) wait for africans to 'save us' and b.) give all our money to cac politicians and pray they 'save' us


:heh: good shyt
 

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so the poitier plan is a.) wait for africans to 'save us' and b.) give all our money to cac politicians and pray they 'save' us


:heh: good shyt

You are distorting my argument and adding idiotic things to it. Your solutions can't work and I've already told you why. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel when the perfect playbook already exist.
 

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"coercion"

@kp404 please educate these fools why Whites having the means of labor allows them to coerce Blacks, even against their wills :snoop:

its evident throughout history; white elites control the means of production and the black elites, or the "New Negroes" were coerced into "clientage." These folks need to look at what political scientist Martin Kilson calls Political clientage theory where black elites allowed whites to construct apartheid in the urban sector in return for superficial leadership positions in the community...It began in the 1920s following the Great Migration as the industrial capitalism exploded and the black working class was created...Joe Trotter's Black Milwaukee shows all this (he used public records, census records, business data, etc. to show all of this); the black elites were coerced by capital to align with the whites, thus segregating the black masses into degenerative socioeconomic spaces; And yes, it was against their will in some cases; State sponsored and private white terrorism was utilized to extort black businessmen who did not conform to white/black elite clientage.

I listed sources for the clowns on here who think I'm talking out of my ass; the sources all used primary data to prove their points for the clowns who thinks the books and papers are just "militancy."
 

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You are distorting my argument and adding idiotic things to it. Your solutions can't work and I've already told you why. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel when the perfect playbook already exist.

not distorting shyt and your solution is not only unrealistic but extremely passive.

- you believe africans will mass-migrate to US, and ally with african americans
- you believe as allies, we'll be able to topple white supremacy (although you still havent explained how)
- you believe we should all donate millions to white politicians
- and you still havent explained when and how white folks are gonna hand over the keys to them nukes, tanks, jets, drones, army, etc.
 

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not distorting shyt and your solution is not only unrealistic but extremely passive.

- you believe africans will mass-migrate to US, and ally with african americans
- you believe as allies, we'll be able to topple white supremacy (although you still havent explained how)
- you believe we should all donate millions to white politicians
- and you still havent explained when and how white folks are gonna hand over the keys to them nukes, tanks, jets, drones, army, etc.

-I didn't say "mass migrate." I said MORE migration. Africans who come to America assimilate into Black culture within a generation. More African-AA unions are healthy and beneficial for AAs.
-Not topple but with Africans assimilating and immigrating at a higher rate, our future generations would have a better grasp of group economics
-When did I say this? I said create a Super PAC staffed with Blacks who use $$$ to buy politicians to further Black agendas. Arabs, Asians and Hispanics all do this. @Box Cutta please tell this nikka.
- Irrelevant as log as we have autonomy and are not susceptible to Whites subverting our culture and community. Time will handle the rest.
 

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-When did I say this? I said create a Super PAC staffed with Blacks who use $$$ to buy politicians to further Black agendas. Arabs, Asians and Hispanics all do this. @Box Cutta please tell this nikka.

stop trynna @ other posters to defend your weak argument. the millions wasted trying to buy some cac politician, that aint going to help towards the progression of blacks, would be better used towards building businesses and networks. once you try to expand those businesses, thats when you reach out politicians to help further your agenda.

at present, we need a REAL Community first
 

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stop trynna @ other posters to defend your weak argument. the millions wasted trying to buy some cac politician, that aint going to help towards the progression of blacks, would be better used towards building businesses and networks. once you try to expand those businesses, thats when you reach out politicians to help further your agenda.

at present, we need a REAL Community first

Yes, because Whites won't out-consume Black consumers and buy out Black businesses, subvert them and warp them in Cac's images, which almost always is a harmful image for Blacks to consume :comeon:


Look, we will just have to disagree :manny:
 
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