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So is the divide and conquer tactic which birthed the 'AA's Vs. Africans' nonsense in this thread. It's all systematic coercion. Don't split hairs now.:skip:

I never said it wasn't, you are creating that strawman.
 

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There's nothing to 'debunk'. You either go by what the Bible states lineage is, or you don't. And we're not 'Jewish' for the record. The fact that the suffix 'ish' is even added on there should be make it obvious to you that it is not according to the Bible.

-ish
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1.
a suffix used to form adjectives from nouns, with the sense of “belonging to” ( British; Danish; English; Spanish ); “after the manner of,” “having the characteristics of,” “like” ( babyish; girlish; mulish ); “addicted to,” “inclined or tending to” ( bookish; freakish ); “near or about” ( fiftyish; sevenish ).
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a suffix used to form adjectives from other adjectives, with the sense of “somewhat,” “rather” ( oldish; reddish; sweetish ).

We are Jews, NOT JEWISH. I could say you shirt is bluish, but it's not really blue. Someone saying they are Jewish implies they are trying to be like Jews, but are not. Ask yourself why they call themselves Israelis, and NOT Israelites.

Is·ra·el·ite (ĭz′rē-ə-līt′)
n.
1. A native or inhabitant of the ancient Northern Kingdom of Israel.
2. A descendant of Jacob; a Jew.
3.
A member of a people regarded as the chosen people of God.
4. A Jew not descended from the tribe of Levi and not a priest.

Is·rae·li (ĭz-rā′lē)
adj.
Of or relating to modern-day Israel or its people.
n. pl. Is·rae·lis
A native or inhabitant of modern-day Israel.

I'm not getting caught up in the whole 'DNA' shows blah blah blah. You nikkas listen to anything you get told by the white man anyway. And for the record, OF COURSE we're going to share DNA with West Africans because we mixed with West Africans and alot of them are Israelites also.


Still see you haven't even addressed my argument. You get rid of ancestral lineages Haplogroups by mere missing. Its stays in a population. The only thing that happens is that it decreases in frequency, but it stays nonetheless. Berbers of North Africa are heavily mixed but Berber males still carry African E-M81 at around 80%+ so they're still African.
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And lol of those Ancient Hebrews were to mix with those West Africans than West Africans today would carry Middle Eastern linage! But most do not! lol.

Post me a study that states African Americans(male or female) carry high frequencies of Middle Eastern lineages. I'll wait.

Also I doubt the Bible would know ones DNA...
 

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I never said it wasn't, you are creating that strawman.
But you said 'AA's are the least likely to assimilate' as if AA's are noble separatists...you don't think white flight, the ghetto or redlining is systematic coercion in the other direction?

Divide and Conquer talking point aside, it's all 'systematic coercion' so your point is mute. :sas1:
 

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Still see you haven't even addressed my argument. You get rid of ancestral lineages Haplogroups by mere missing. Its stays in a population. The only thing that happens is that it decreases in frequency, but it stays nonetheless. Berbers of North Africa are heavily mixed but Berber males still carry African E-M81 at around 80%+ so they're still African.
Haplogroup-E-M81.gif

And lol of those Ancient Hebrews were to mix with those West Africans than West Africans today would carry Middle Eastern linage! But most do not! lol.

Post me a study that states African Americans(male or female) carry high frequencies of Middle Eastern lineages. I'll wait.

Also I doubt the Bible would know ones DNA...

Got damn, you're slow. What you want me to argue is based on a false premise to begin with. You want me to show where my DNA is linked to people who the world claims are the real Jews. Why would I do that when I'm CLEARLY stating they AREN'T THE REAL JEWS TO BEGIN WITH? Don't bother replying, it's obvious this isn't for you to begin with.
 

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But you said 'AA's are the least likely to assimilate' as if AA's are noble separatists...you don't think white flight, the ghetto or redlining is systematic coercion in the other direction?

Divide and Conquer talking point aside, it's all 'systematic coercion' so your point is mute. :sas1:

Maybe but then at best neither of us are correct since we haven't seen a coercion-less environment


blacks tried to assimilate at every angle and were often rejected. this so called "push back" was nothing more then the result of being denied the option to assimilate.

Oh, I forgot you live in dreamland
 

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You think that because you're an idiot. Debunk this while you're at it. And the source is white jewish people, because we know you need Massa to verify anything.



lol stop with the projections. I am merely a defender of reality. And I don't care for YouTube videos. Why? Because its been long debunked that no Jews ever built the pyramids, or slaves in general.

Associated Press Writer CAIRO—Egypt displayed on Monday newly discovered tombs more than 4,000 years old and said they belonged to people who worked on the Great Pyramids of Giza, presenting the discovery as more evidence that slaves did not build the ancient monuments.


The series of modest nine-foot-deep shafts held a dozen skeletons of pyramid builders, perfectly preserved by dry desert sand along with jars that once contained beer and bread meant for the workers' afterlife.

The mud-brick tombs were uncovered last week in the backyard of the Giza pyramids, stretching beyond a burial site first discovered in the 1990s and dating to the 4th Dynasty (2575 B.C. to 2467 B.C.), when the great pyramids were built on the fringes of present-day Cairo.

The ancient Greek historian Herodotus once described the pyramid builders as slaves, creating what Egyptologists say is a myth later propagated by Hollywood films.

Graves of the pyramid builders were first discovered in the area in 1990 when a tourist on horseback stumbled over a wall that later proved to be a tomb. Egypt's archaeology chief Zahi Hawass said that discovery and the latest finds last week show that the workers were paid laborers, rather than the slaves of popular imagination.

Hawass told reporters at the site that the find, first announced on Sunday, sheds more light on the lifestyle and origins of the pyramid builders. Most importantly, he said the workers were not recruited from slaves commonly found across Egypt during pharaonic times.

One popular myth that Egyptologists say was perpetrated in part by Hollywood movies held that ancient Israelite slaves — ancestors of the Jewish people — built the pyramids.

Amihai Mazar, professor at the Institute of Archaeology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, says that myth stemmed from an erroneous claim by former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, on a visit to Egypt in 1977, that Jews built the pyramids.

"No Jews built the pyramids because Jews didn't exist at the period when the pyramids were built," Mazar said.:lolbron::mjlol:

Dorothy Resig, an editor of Biblical Archaeology Review in Washington D.C., said the idea probably arose from the Old Testament Book of Exodus, which says: "So the Egyptians enslaved the children of Israel with backbreaking labor" and the Pharaoh put them to work to build buildings.

"If the Hebrews built anything, then it was the city of Ramses as mentioned in Exodus," said Mazar.

Dieter Wildung, a former director of Berlin's Egyptian Museum, said it is "common knowledge in serious Egyptology" that the pyramid builders were not slaves and that the construction of the pyramids and the story of the Israelites in Egypt were separated by hundreds of years.

"The myth of the slaves building pyramids is only the stuff of tabloids and Hollywood," Wildung told The Associated Press by telephone. "The world simply could not believe the pyramids were build without oppression and forced labor, but out of loyalty to the pharaohs."

Hawass said the builders came from poor Egyptian families from the north and the south, and were respected for their work — so much so that those who died during construction were bestowed the honor of being buried in the tombs near the sacred pyramids of their pharaohs.

Their proximity to the pyramids and the manner of burial in preparation for the afterlife backs this theory, Hawass said.

"No way would they have been buried so honorably if they were slaves," he said.

The tombs contained no gold or valuables, which safeguarded them from tomb-raiders throughout antiquity, and the bodies were not mummified. The skeletons were found buried in a fetal position — the head pointing to the West and the feet to the East according to ancient Egyptian beliefs, surrounded by the jars once filled with supplies for afterlife.

The men who built the last remaining wonder of the ancient world ate meat regularly and worked in three months shifts, said Hawass. It took 10,000 workers more than 30 years to build a single pyramid, Hawass said — a tenth of the work force of 100,000 that Herodotus wrote of after visiting Egypt around 450 B.C.

Egypt: New Find Shows Slaves Didn't Build Pyramids - US News

Nice try though.

And btw the Pyramid builders in your video look like typical Egyptian laborers.
 

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lol stop with the projections. I am merely a defender of reality. And I don't care for YouTube videos. Why? Because its been long debunked that no Jews ever built the pyramids, or slaves in general.



Egypt: New Find Shows Slaves Didn't Build Pyramids - US News

Nice try though.

And btw the Pyramid builders in your video look like typical Egyptian laborers.

Again, you're showing your ignorance. Where does it state in the video they were even building the pyramids? Also, it's funny that you acknowledge that the 'pyramid builders' look like Egyptian laborers because according to the Bible, the Canaanites couldn't tell the difference between the Egyptians and Israel either.

Genesis 50:7-11
7 And Joseph went up to bury his father: and with him went up all the servants of Pharaoh, the elders of his house, and all the elders of the land of Egypt,

8 And all the house of Joseph, and his brethren, and his father's house: only their little ones, and their flocks, and their herds, they left in the land of Goshen.

9 And there went up with him both chariots and horsemen: and it was a very great company.

10 And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation: and he made a mourning for his father seven days.

11 And when the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, saw the mourning in the floor of Atad, they said, This is a grievous mourning to the Egyptians: wherefore the name of it was called Abelmizraim, which is beyond Jordan.
 

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Got damn, you're slow. What you want me to argue is based on a false premise to begin with. You want me to show where my DNA is linked to people who the world claims are the real Jews. Why would I do that when I'm CLEARLY stating they AREN'T THE REAL JEWS TO BEGIN WITH? Don't bother replying, it's obvious this isn't for you to begin with.

More emotional projections and sidetracking.

Still no credible links.

And responding to the bolded, you did say the Ancient Hebrews came from the Middle East? Right? You did say they are indigenous to that area? If that's the case then they would have carried Middle Eastern lineages like Y-DNA J which AROSE in the Middle East during before there ever were any Ancient Hebrews or civilization for that matter. Just admit it you have no basic understanding of this subject. Yet I'm slow?
 

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