Come on, those things made him untouchable, even without them he would still be good, he's not 25 anymore and still dominating, it's a testament to skills
manny hasn't had an impressive win since cotto, and Cotto was weight drained with no stamina, he was still slipping manny's punches in the round the ref stopped the fight, he just didn't have any energy to fight back and wasnt throwing punches at all it had to be stopped
manny has never been on floyd's level and when they fight people will finally see that, and come up with all types of excuses