Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

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Here's ariza back in 2011

Heading into the second waive of negotiations for the proposed super bout between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao, people seemed unsure as to whether or not the contest would truly come off. Differences at the negotiating table over money and drug testing seemed to be a serious red flag but when it was announced by Bob Arum in late June that a resolution was close many people got their hopes up.

One person who was still skeptical was Pacquiao’s strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza. The Columbia native had always had his doubts as to whether Floyd wanted to test himself against a fight of Pacquiao’s caliber, pointing to the combative differences of each man's nature in the ring. So last night when promoter Bob Arum noted that he was looking past Mayweather and on to other bouts for his superstar fighter, Ariza was hardly surprised yet still slightly down.

“I’ll be really honest that I’m really not thinking about it,” the always busy Ariza said. “I’m disappointed like everybody else. I’m not surprised for sure. I’ve been saying it forever that Floyd just didn’t want to face Manny. I’m sure Michael Koncz and Bob will figure out what the next move is. We’ll be ready for whatever is next.”

What is next for Pacquiao is still uncertain but the two names being mentioned right now are former welterweight champion Antonio Margarito and Puerto Rican banger Miguel Cotto. While Cotto was thoroughly destructed by Pacquiao in November of last year he bounced back last month by moving up in weight and claiming the WBA Jr. Middleweight championship with a solid 9th round stoppage over game Yuri Foreman. But was it enough of a turnaround to make Ariza think that the Caugus fighter had rejuvenated his career?

“It’s really hard to say,” Ariza said. “I thought Yuri was starting to come on. Then he went down and he was without his legs and it’s kind of like fighting with one arm.”

So what then of Margarito, the scarred Tijuana fighter whose career took a serious hit when he was caught with elements of plaster of paris in his gloves before his January 2009 loss to Shane Mosley? Margarito may forever have a black cloud over his head but he is still a threat because of his imposing size, granite chin, and pressing style. When looking at the 32-year old Ariza can’t point out any strengths or weaknesses, noting that everything would lie in trainer Freddie Roach’s hands.

“He’s the master strategist when it comes to those kind of things,” Ariza said with respect. “Whatever game plan he comes up with I’m sure will be the game plan for us to win. I would just do my best to get Manny in the best condition and shape possible.”

Speaking further on his life Ariza noted that since finishing camp with Wild Card transplant Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. he has been working with Vanes Martirosyan and some fighters from the Ukraine, including WBA welterweight champion Vyacheslav Senchenko, who has been sparring intensely with Cincinnati, Ohio’s Rashad Holloway. It is obvious in speaking to Ariza that he is taking everything in stride and he speaks at though he could see the writing on the wall well beforehand.

“Pretty much. I know more than I read but it has always just been my personal opinion that Floyd just wouldn’t take that risk. Unfortunately I was right.”

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Bob Arum still hopeful for Pacquiao-Mayweather in 2011

As the conference call rolled on Arum noted that Mayweather likely had a good reason for not committing to a fight with Manny Pacquiao, one of which very well may be his Uncle and trainer Roger’s upcoming trial in August for allegations of assault. Arum took no cheap shots or verbal quips at Mayweather and instead insisted that this was the move that had to be made because... (Click for more)
 

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Here's ariza back in 2011

Heading into the second waive of negotiations for the proposed super bout between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao, people seemed unsure as to whether or not the contest would truly come off. Differences at the negotiating table over money and drug testing seemed to be a serious red flag but when it was announced by Bob Arum in late June that a resolution was close many people got their hopes up.

One person who was still skeptical was Pacquiao’s strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza. The Columbia native had always had his doubts as to whether Floyd wanted to test himself against a fight of Pacquiao’s caliber, pointing to the combative differences of each man's nature in the ring. So last night when promoter Bob Arum noted that he was looking past Mayweather and on to other bouts for his superstar fighter, Ariza was hardly surprised yet still slightly down.

“I’ll be really honest that I’m really not thinking about it,” the always busy Ariza said. “I’m disappointed like everybody else. I’m not surprised for sure. I’ve been saying it forever that Floyd just didn’t want to face Manny. I’m sure Michael Koncz and Bob will figure out what the next move is. We’ll be ready for whatever is next.”

What is next for Pacquiao is still uncertain but the two names being mentioned right now are former welterweight champion Antonio Margarito and Puerto Rican banger Miguel Cotto. While Cotto was thoroughly destructed by Pacquiao in November of last year he bounced back last month by moving up in weight and claiming the WBA Jr. Middleweight championship with a solid 9th round stoppage over game Yuri Foreman. But was it enough of a turnaround to make Ariza think that the Caugus fighter had rejuvenated his career?

“It’s really hard to say,” Ariza said. “I thought Yuri was starting to come on. Then he went down and he was without his legs and it’s kind of like fighting with one arm.”

So what then of Margarito, the scarred Tijuana fighter whose career took a serious hit when he was caught with elements of plaster of paris in his gloves before his January 2009 loss to Shane Mosley? Margarito may forever have a black cloud over his head but he is still a threat because of his imposing size, granite chin, and pressing style. When looking at the 32-year old Ariza can’t point out any strengths or weaknesses, noting that everything would lie in trainer Freddie Roach’s hands.

“He’s the master strategist when it comes to those kind of things,” Ariza said with respect. “Whatever game plan he comes up with I’m sure will be the game plan for us to win. I would just do my best to get Manny in the best condition and shape possible.”

Speaking further on his life Ariza noted that since finishing camp with Wild Card transplant Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. he has been working with Vanes Martirosyan and some fighters from the Ukraine, including WBA welterweight champion Vyacheslav Senchenko, who has been sparring intensely with Cincinnati, Ohio’s Rashad Holloway. It is obvious in speaking to Ariza that he is taking everything in stride and he speaks at though he could see the writing on the wall well beforehand.

“Pretty much. I know more than I read but it has always just been my personal opinion that Floyd just wouldn’t take that risk. Unfortunately I was right.”

In the news


Bob Arum still hopeful for Pacquiao-Mayweather in 2011

As the conference call rolled on Arum noted that Mayweather likely had a good reason for not committing to a fight with Manny Pacquiao, one of which very well may be his Uncle and trainer Roger’s upcoming trial in August for allegations of assault. Arum took no cheap shots or verbal quips at Mayweather and instead insisted that this was the move that had to be made because... (Click for more)


Is this from the time frame where Arum was lying about negotiations with Mayweather's side?:mjpls:
 
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True.. But there's things that arum does that bugs Floyd... I'm sure he's asking for more money but at the same time I think he likes trolling Floyd.

Arum i a true jew, master of lies, he knows in the media once you say one thing a bunch of time people are dumb enough to assume the truth

ariz ain't saying nothing anybody with a brain new for years


manny can barely speak english going on radio tours talking about he's ready to fight when he HAS ZERO SAY in who he fights
how can say whatever he wants, doesn't make it true, he's been said he agrees years ago, it' the same bob arum trick tactic and people still fall for this dumb ass shyt

if you peple want to make the fight happen, instead of bashing floyd on twitter, all you pac fans need to satrt bashing arum and putting the pressure on him

all you fakkit ass jouranlist quick to hate on a black man, start putting the bad press on arum, start telling the truth about this cancer start putting the pressure on him and the fight will

remember when peope wanted cotto to fight floyd, bob was blocking that fight talking about he ain't ready, when he left to rank the fight happened like it wasn't shyt
 

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Bob Arum ripped him off multi millions, I see you've never done business before


Then why doesn't he sue him? IF "Money" Mayweather didn't have his business in order and agreed to a shytty contract that's on him, miss me with that "ripped him off" shyt like that's an excuse for not making the biggest fight in all of boxing. Arum's cut doesn't come out of Floyd's money who gives a shyt.

Arum ripped him off but Arum was the first dude he called when J Prince was out there putting babeball bats upside nikka's heads. :shaq2:

*****allegedly :whoa:
 
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True.. But there's things that arum does that bugs Floyd... I'm sure he's asking for more money but at the same time I think he likes trolling Floyd.
Arum bugging Floyd isn't a good enough excuse...If Arum askimg for more money, then find a compromise, and stop being a little bytch trying to go down in history as a scared champion
 
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Then why doesn't he sue him? IF "Money" Mayweather didn't have his business in order and agreed to a shytty contract that's on him, miss me with that "ripped him off" shyt like that's an excuse for not making the biggest fight in all of boxing. Arum's cut doesn't come out of Floyd's money who gives a shyt.

Arum ripped him off but Arum was the first dude he called when J Prince was out there putting babeball bats upside nikka's heads. :shaq2:

*****allegedly

The same reason Dr. Dre didn't sue suge knight

the same reason why TLC can't sue Pebbbles

Th same reason why Tyson couldn't sue Don King
HE got fukked IN A CONTRACT

you can be strongarmed robbed or you got be gansgta with the paper

Arum was protecting his investment, his property

whats wrong with you dumb ass nikkaz

I bet J Prince won't send no goons to see them big ass Money Team nikkaz it's easy to beat up Leonard fukkerbe,

Bob wasn't paying him what he was worth, Floyd found out and bounced

Floyd said Bob owes him millions, why else would he hate the man

when foyd was top rank he was another boxer would could be muscled by gangsters

soon as he left he became a boss with security team them nikkaz wouldn't try to roll up on
 
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The same reason Dr. Dre didn't sue suge knight

the same reason why TLC can't sue Pebbbles

Th same reason why Tyson couldn't sue Don King
HE got fukked IN A CONTRACT

you can be strongarmed robbed or you got be gansgta with the paper

Arum was protecting his investment, his property

whats wrong with you dumb ass nikkaz

I bet J Prince won't send no goons to see them big ass Money Team nikkaz it's easy to beat up Leonard fukkerbe,

Bob wasn't paying him what he was worth, Floyd found out and bounced

Floyd said Bob owes him millions, why else would he hate the man

when foyd was top rank he was another boxer would could be muscled by gangsters

soon as he left he became a boss with security team them nikkaz wouldn't try to roll up on
never forget when arum said floyd aint getting 20 mil to fight de la hoya cause he aint worth it
floyd left arum and ended up getting 25 to fight him and they broke the all time record:wow:
the very next day, arum started that scared fighter campaign even and dumb asses been eating it up since:snoop:
 

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from the home of coca-cola, i'm not referring to s
The same reason Dr. Dre didn't sue suge knight

the same reason why TLC can't sue Pebbbles

Th same reason why Tyson couldn't sue Don King
HE got fukked IN A CONTRACT

you can be strongarmed robbed or you got be gansgta with the paper

Arum was protecting his investment, his property

whats wrong with you dumb ass nikkaz

I bet J Prince won't send no goons to see them big ass Money Team nikkaz it's easy to beat up Leonard fukkerbe,

Bob wasn't paying him what he was worth, Floyd found out and bounced

Floyd said Bob owes him millions, why else would he hate the man
Bob admitted to owing him money then counter sued against Floyd and people who reprented Floyd because they owed Top Rank money... All the money owed cancelled out... Neither Arum or Floyd is hurt over that little bit of money... Floyd and pathetic Floyd stans like yourself like to bring this up as yet another excuse for reasons why the bytch cant work with Arum all of a sudden.. Even though he KNOWS he has to work with Arum for the fight to be made
 

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remember when peope wanted cotto to fight floyd, bob was blocking that fight talking about he ain't ready, when he left to rank the fight happened like it wasn't shyt
no way mayweather vs cotto happens if cotto was under contract to top rank
unlike pacquaio, cotto was aware of this and has a good business mind
pacquaio is a lawyer's dream
he just blindly signs contracts and accepts whatever arums gives him
his advisor works for arum:mjlol:
if thats not a conflict of interest, i dont no what is
 
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