Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

[Newzz]

I actually think it's way too early for Pacquiao to be pulling out of negotiations with Floyd (if they choose to do so at the end of the month). They did this last time and fought Joshua Clottey instead


It's not like Manny has options available to him outside of Jessie Vargas, whom Arum already called his "Plan B" if the Floyd fight cant be made


Manny should wait until mid-March to call off the negotiations, because we know a 2 month window isnt enough to train and get ready for a fight, and no excuses can be thrown his way.


TR has already said Manny will be fighting in November for his 2nd fight in 2015, but he could fight his 1st fight in July (and still have time to have a full and complete training camp) if he breaks off talks with Floyd in March. He could fight Vargas () in July and have his 2nd fight in November...4 months later.

 

[Black_Jesus]

I actually think it's way too early for Pacquiao to be pulling out of negotiations with Floyd (if they choose to do so at the end of the month). They did this last time and fought Joshua Clottey instead


It's not like Manny has options available to him outside of Jessie Vargas, whom Arum already called his "Plan B" if the Floyd fight cant be made


Manny should wait until mid-March to call off the negotiations, because we know a 2 month window isnt enough to train and get ready for a fight, and no excuses can be thrown his way.


TR has already said Manny will be fighting in November for his 2nd fight in 2015, but he could fight his 1st fight in July (and still have time to have a full and complete training camp) if he breaks off talks with Floyd in March. He could fight Vargas () in July and have his 2nd fight in November...4 months later.

Wait for what?? If Floyd cant make up his mind by the end of January it means he doesn't want the fight..

Pac has choices. If they choose to turn him down thats, on them. NOT Pac.. If he ends up fighting Vargas then so be it, we tried

 

[seemorecizzy]

Hell naw....both of yall



@Black_Jesus has talked TOO much shyt over the years about Floyd to be banned for ANY amount of time immediately



He HAS to be here and take this ETHER from every poster on The Coliseum as payback and retribution for his supreme level stanning



WHEN Manny Pacquiao loses to Floyd, @Black_Jesus should have a 1 month ban...not to start until 4 weeks after the fight. And THEN, he has to come back (because you know there will be talks of the rematch) and take some more ETHER in the lead up to the rematch (which Pac will lose again). That's when his next ban should start...4 weeks after the rematch....and he should be banned for 2 months then. Same for you Floyd stans who want him banned


If Floyd loses, yall HAVE to be here to get this work and then get banned for 1 month only to come back and take some more ETHER in buildup to the rematch.



Im pretty sure none of the neutral people on here (neither Floyd/Pacquiao stans) want either group gone, because we have ETHER and MEMES and GIFs to unleash on yall

 

[Newzz]

Wait for what?? If Floyd cant make up his mind by the end of January it means he doesn't want the fight..

Pac has choices. If they choose to turn him down thats, on them. NOT Pac.. If he ends up fighting Vargas then so be it, we tried

No he doesnt


Floyd is the one who has options (can choose from any member of the Haymon stable and get a fight.... Danny Garcia or Amir Khan especially....or he can fight Cotto in a rematch). Manny's only option is Jessie Vargas or MAYBE Terence Crawford.


Manny needs to wait until mid-March, because if not, and he calls the negotiations off early (not to mention the fact that Mayweather's camp originally made the offer to Team Pacquiao in August, so FLOYD'S the one who's already been waiting for TR/Team Pacquiao to start looking over the negotiations all the way until after Pacquiao fought Algieri....3+ months he/Showtime waited before TR got serious about negotiations in late November), Pacquiao runs the risk of looking like they didnt really want the fight.


Last time this happened, Pacquiao fought Clottey for no reason

 

[Medulla Oblongata]

Could someone give me the 411?

 

[Newzz]

Could someone give me the 411?

Quick summary of key points:

In August 2014, Showtime offered a contract to Manny Pacquiao to fight Floyd Mayweather with a 65/35 split

Late November 2014, TR acknowledged negotiations where in fact taking place after Head of Showtime (Stephen Espinoza) leaked that TR was sitting on the contract for 3 months already and havent said anything.

December 2014, Arum met with Les Mooves (Head of CBS...parent company of Showtime and is handling negotiations on Mayweather's side) in order to negotiate for Floyd vs Manny fight

Mid-December 2015, Pacquiao says money is not an issue, will agree to all Floyd's demands, and really wants Floyd fight. Floyd says same thing about wanting fight, but that Manny Pacquiao would not receive the 40 million offered to him

Late-December 2015, statement from a member of Team Pacquiao that they think Arum is holding up the fight

January 7th 2015, Team Pacquiao issues statement saying they will wait until end of January before moving on to next opponent if Mayweather doesnt sign for fight.


and Im missing alot of things, so you should read the entire thread if you can breh:

 

[Black_Jesus]

No he doesnt


Floyd is the one who has options (can choose from any member of the Haymon stable and get a fight.... Danny Garcia or Amir Khan especially....or he can fight Cotto in a rematch). Manny's only option is Jessie Vargas or MAYBE Terence Crawford.


Manny needs to wait until mid-March, because if not, and he calls the negotiations off early (not to mention the fact that Mayweather's camp originally made the offer to Team Pacquiao in August, so FLOYD'S the one who's already been waiting for TR/Team Pacquiao to start looking over the negotiations all the way until after Pacquiao fought Algieri....3+ months he/Showtime waited before TR got serious about negotiations in late November), Pacquiao runs the risk of looking like they didnt really want the fight.


Last time this happened, Pacquiao fought Clottey for no reason

My nikka please cut it out..Pac aint running the risk of shyt. Negotiations wouldn't be able to start until after both Pac and Floyd fought their scheduled opponents in September and November anyway... and by then Floyd was still saying negotiations weren't taking place... Nobody is waiting until any mid-march lol your blunts are laced... we will happily take on a Jessie Vargas if Floydie chooses to run, and get another easy ppv pay date in China with zero pressure from HBO to pull in a million buys... JMM can get some, Brooks, Bradley rubber match, Marquez 5, Crawford at 140. We good b

 

[Medulla Oblongata]

Quick summary and Im missing alot of things, so you should read the entire thread if you can breh:

In August 2014, Showtime offered a contract to Manny Pacquiao to fight Floyd Mayweather with a 65/35 split

Late November 2014, TR acknowledged negotiations where in fact taking place after Head of Showtime (Stephen Espinoza) leaked that TR was sitting on the contract for 3 months already and havent said anything.

December 2014, Arum met with Les Mooves (Head of CBS...parent company of Showtime and is handling negotiations on Mayweather's side) in order to negotiate for Floyd v Manny fight

Mid-December 2015, Pacquiao says money is not an issue, will agree to all Floyd's demands, and really wants Floyd fight. Floyd says same thing about wanting fight, but that Manny Pacquiao would not receive the 40 million offered to him

Late-December 2015, statement from a member of Team Pacquiao that they think Arum is holding up the fight

January 7th 2015, Team Pacquiao issues statement saying they will wait until end of January before moving on to next opponent if Mayweather doesnt sign for fight.

Thanks, mane

What's your take on this?

 

[Black_Jesus]

Quick summary of key points:

In August 2014, Showtime offered a contract to Manny Pacquiao to fight Floyd Mayweather with a 65/35 split

Late November 2014, TR acknowledged negotiations where in fact taking place after Head of Showtime (Stephen Espinoza) leaked that TR was sitting on the contract for 3 months already and havent said anything.

December 2014, Arum met with Les Mooves (Head of CBS...parent company of Showtime and is handling negotiations on Mayweather's side) in order to negotiate for Floyd vs Manny fight

Mid-December 2015, Pacquiao says money is not an issue, will agree to all Floyd's demands, and really wants Floyd fight. Floyd says same thing about wanting fight, but that Manny Pacquiao would not receive the 40 million offered to him

Late-December 2015, statement from a member of Team Pacquiao that they think Arum is holding up the fight

January 7th 2015, Team Pacquiao issues statement saying they will wait until end of January before moving on to next opponent if Mayweather doesnt sign for fight.


and Im missing alot of things, so you should read the entire thread if you can breh:

I like how you conveniently left out Floyd denying any negotiations had been taking place.. I see you my nikka. Tell the whole truth, dont leave any parts out

 

[Newzz]

Thanks, mane

What's your take on this?

This right here...

My nikka please cut it out..Pac aint running the risk of shyt.

To YOU....but you dont count. Pacquiao has already ran from negotiations before and I specifially detailed who he fought last time....Joshua Clottey.

Negotiations wouldn't be able to start until after both Pac and Floyd fought their scheduled opponents in September and November anyway...

That's not true and you KNOW it


So now Boxers cant negotiate contracts for future fights?


Did we NOT see Floyd Mayweather had a signed contract to fight Judah.....BEFORE Judah even fought and lost to Baldomir Did we NOT see Sergey Kovalev sign the contract to fight Bernard Hopkins before fighting Blake Camparello just a few months ago

It happens all the time.

and by then Floyd was still saying negotiations weren't taking place...

Does that mean TR didnt have the contract in August already


Because Floyd does his business on the hush, doesnt mean anything when it's already been CONFIRMED that TR was offered a contract for Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao with a 65/35 split by Showtime all the way back in August 2014. TR sat on it and did nothing but claim they wanted to fight Floyd, but didnt even negotiate at all until after Pacquiao fought Algieri.

Nobody is waiting until any mid-march lol your blunts are laced... we will happily take on a Jessie Vargas if Floydie chooses to run, and get another easy ppv pay date in China with zero pressure from HBO to pull in a million buys... JMM can get some, Brooks, Bradley rubber match, Marquez 5, Crawford at 140. We good b

JMM is not fighting Manny Pacquiao...that option is dead

A 3rd match with Timothy Bradley?

Fighting Terence Crawford, a non title holder, non-ranked at 140 BLACK opponent on PPV in China of all places?

Fighting Jessie Vargas period??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


You have NO options of a good fight outside of Floyd or doing business with Al Haymon which is why yall are scraping the bottom of the barrel for Chris "Let Him Out The Cage" Algieri

 

[merklman]

This right here...




To YOU....but you dont count. Pacquiao has already ran from negotiations before and I specifially detailed who he fought last time....Joshua Clottey.




That's not true and you KNOW it


So now Boxers cant negotiate contracts for future fights?


Did we NOT see Floyd Mayweather had a signed contract to fight Judah.....BEFORE Judah even fought and lost to Baldomir Did we NOT see Sergey Kovalev sign the contract to fight Bernard Hopkins before fighting Blake Camparello just a few months ago

It happens all the time.



Does that mean TR didnt have the contract in August already


Because Floyd does his business on the hush, doesnt mean anything when it's already been CONFIRMED that TR was offered a contract for Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao with a 65/35 split by Showtime all the way back in August 2014. TR sat on it and did nothing but claim they wanted to fight Floyd, but didnt even negotiate at all until after Pacquiao fought Algieri.




JMM is not fighting Manny Pacquiao...that option is dead

A 3rd match with Timothy Bradley?

Fighting Terence Crawford, a non title holder, non-ranked at 140 BLACK opponent on PPV in China of all places?

Fighting Jessie Vargas period??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


You have NO options of a good fight outside of Floyd or doing business with Al Haymon which is why yall are scraping the bottom of the barrel for Chris "Let Him Out The Cage" Algieri

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Can't wait til Vargas is called an undefeated champion master boxer

 

[Newzz]

Can't wait til Vargas is called an undefeated champion master boxer

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Oh the hilariousness when two bishes try to work something out

 

[PJTech]

Chris "Let Him Out The Cage" Algieri



I still remember that exact moment too.....