Black_Jesus
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stregnth increase and to absorb punches better.. Only reason he hasn't been KOing his opponents is because of reoccurring hand injuries..
Floyd Mayweather and possible illegal IV thread
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I'm not pretending to be a expert like you and some of these other people In here
2 days ago none of yall knew about tues, fluid limits, and permission slips but now everyone here is acting like a expert
All I know is floyd followed the procedure, got approved, and did nothing wrong
The dehydration theory makes ALOT more sense then the flushing out/ steroids theory though I'll tell you that much.
Why don't u paint a picture of what you think happened
This should be good
Again keeping in mind he was tested like 16 times before the weigh in and was tested the following day
Here's my problem. Why was this illegally approved and not the shot?
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I'm a manny fan, and I think Floyd would've waxed manny no matter what they did pre fight.
That being said, it's pretty clear Floyd eeks out every edge he can get over opponents, even if it means violating rules. It's pretty clear here he knowingly violated some rules here.
Floyd is like the patriots of boxing. A habitual line stepper..
That being said, it's pretty clear Floyd eeks out every edge he can get over opponents, even if it means violating rules. It's pretty clear here he knowingly violated some rules here.
Floyd is like the patriots of boxing. A habitual line stepper..
Black_Jesus
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The dehydration theory makes ALOT more sense then the flushing out/ steroids theory though I'll tell you that much.
Why don't u paint a picture of what you think happened
This should be good
Again keeping in mind he was tested like 16 times before the weigh in and was tested the following day
Of course the dehydration theory makes more sense to you because you're in denial.. Floyd makes 147 with ease NO PROBLEM.. yet all of a sudden he needs 750ml of "fluids" to flow through his veins, night before the fight??
I dont have to paint any picture because he picture is already there.. Floyd flushed some shyt out of his body the night before the fight and benefited in the ring vs a Pacquiao with one healthy shoulder..
As far as im concerned there's will always be a * next to that decision victory..
We will happily except a rematch though against Mayweather instead of Baneweather whenever hes ready
Im glad Floyds shady activity is coming to light
That Baneweather shyt is legit funny. 
seemorecizzy
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One was before the fight and was vitamins
The other was asked for on fight night hours before the fight was gonna start and contained something that can turn a fighter into the hulk and give him a distinct advantage
I don't see why these two are being compared
Plus mannys shoulder injury is bogus
showed no signs of anything hurt'ing, just made excuses when he got his ass whipped
seemorecizzy
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The dehydration shyt makes more sense. the alternative is pretty much a conspricy between Usada and floyd. A comparison Usada would willingly document and snitch on themselves overOf course the dehydration theory makes more sense to you because you're in denial.. Floyd makes 147 with ease NO PROBLEM.. yet all of a sudden he needs 750ml of "fluids" to flow through his veins, night before the fight??
I dont have to paint any picture because he picture is already there.. Floyd flushed some shyt out of his body the night before the fight and benefited in the ring vs a Pacquiao with one healthy shoulder..
As far as im concerned there's will always be a * next to that decision victory..
We will happily except a rematch though against Mayweather instead of Baneweather whenever hes ready
Im glad Floyds shady activity is coming to light
Floyd was randomly drug tested 16 or so times coming up to the weigh in and was tested on fight day
So whatever your claiming he took had to be taken directly after the weigh in and be out of his system the following day
Which makes no sense
U just don't get it
Your like one of them dudes who dies a jail bid and then robs a bank on their first day out
I don't no why I bother
I'm comparing them becuz neither should have been approve under the guidelines of WADA.
seemorecizzy
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Agreed
But again. It's a USADA WADa issue, not a floyd issue
Im just saying that asking to do something before fight day that involves fluids and vitamins, isn't the same as asking for something HOURS before the fight that you:
1. Never reported in the past (floyd reported everything as far as we know)
2. Gives you a advantage that is direct correlation with your style of fighting
3.And something you showed zero signs of actually needing during the contest
The Infamous
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It's hard to say Floyd gets tested 'randomly' when he gets to choose the start and end date for the drug testing.
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It is the same if both are deemed illegal. So again why would the USADA grant Floyd a treatment and not Manny.
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i dont think you know what torodol is
shyts used to treat pain/inflammation
it doesn't turn you into the hulk lol
you think all steroids are the same huh
Black_Jesus
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How is it not a Floyd issue, when he's asking for quadruple the amount of fluid you're supposed to get in one sitting. Hes just as guilty as USADA for looking the other way.. he was flushing out his system trying to make sure the was no possibility of a positive A sample like the last time...
He violated a serious rule.. fight should be a no contest... there needs to be an even playing field in boxing.. The nikka was injecting Bane juice into his body breh.
seemorecizzy
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i dont think you know what torodol is
shyts used to treat pain/inflammation
it doesn't turn you into the hulk lol
you think all steroids are the same huh
"With no prior reporting of an injury and a medical form where Pacquiao, himself, indicated that he had no shoulder (or any other) injuries, there was simply not enough time to investigate and properly decide whether to allow an injection before this high-stakes bout.
But why would Team Pacquiao be pursuing an injection if, per their new “official” story, the shoulder was fine as of the day of the fight? Petrocelli admits that doctors examined Pacquiao prior to the fight and gave him the thumbs up to go ahead.
One theory is that the medication in that injection may have something to do with Team Pacquiao’s pursuit of the shot.
According to all published accounts, Team Pacquiao requested an injection of Toradol, a powerful anti-inflammatory, for the fighter about two hours before the bout.
Toradol is a legitimate, USADA-approved anti-inflammatory used on patients suffering acute pain from either injury or the post-surgery recovery process. There are many legitimate reasons to use
But there are also many illegitimate uses for this product.
It’s the sporting world’s worst kept secret that Toradol has been widely used as somewhat of a legalized cheat or substitute “pep pill” for otherwise healthy players looking to be temporarily rejuvenated for the game. In a legitimately injured athlete Toradol completely masks the effects of that injury, allowing the player to perform as if nothing were wrong. In an athlete not suffering from a debilitating injury, however, it turns him into what could be described as a virtually indestructible force.
The NFL has especially leaned on the use of Toradol, with teams reportedly issuing across the board pre-game injections for their players, injured or not. This dangerous practice has been mentioned in several lawsuits against the NFL from ex-players concerned with the league’s lack of safety precautions.
Toradol, aside from reinvigorating the body, also masks the effects of cramps and, more importantly, wipes clean the symptoms of a concussion. Under the effect of Toradol, an athlete could be seriously injured and dangerously concussed without even knowing it until much later.
“…End the toradol shots...before the game,” said former NFL quarterback Chris Simms. “[it's] basically a super strong pain killer that makes your body numb. You could go run through the wall and you wouldn't really know it until two or three days later.”
Just to sum it up
-pacquaio said in his own writing that he had no shoulder Injury
- 2 hours before the fight he suddenly has a surgery injury and wants to take a shot of something that can Enhance his performance drastically if he's lying
3. Withou knowing if he's actually injured (he just said less than 24 hours ago that he wasn't) he is denied the shot
4.pacquauo goes on to fight mayweather without showing any sign of shoulder pain in the ring, or in the corner. He voluntarily raises both his hands after the fight
If pacquaio had a legit injury even asking the day before probably would got him his little enhancement shot. But I'm sure they would have a doctor check him out first... Something they clearly wanted to avoid cause they were bullshytting.
They wanted to throw it out there during the damn undercard to either get an advantage or have a built in excuse
Simple as that
Dehydration actually doesn't make sense.The dehydration shyt makes more sense. the alternative is pretty much a conspricy between Usada and floyd. A comparison Usada would willingly document and snitch on themselves over
Floyd was randomly drug tested 16 or so times coming up to the weigh in and was tested on fight day
So whatever your claiming he took had to be taken directly after the weigh in and be out of his system the following day
Which makes no sense
U just don't get it
Your like one of them dudes who dies a jail bid and then robs a bank on their first day out
I don't no why I bother
IV is not a legal means of hydration, u have to be in a medical crisis to get one approved... u apply for it and afight team if doctors evaluate u and they decide and give the ok.
U can't just call and say I want a iv and they just say yes, its a process... a process that never happened.... every fighter is severely dehydrated after a weigh in and im sure would like a iv to hydrate but u can't cuz its illegal unless u in a crises... the great thing about being dehydrated is there's ways to improve that by drinking liquids and foods rich in electrolytes... that's why we have weigh ins the night before the fight.
Then now we can add the amount he used which is like 15 times the legal limit he should have been used screams that the only purpose was a flush... also if he was approved it should have been done in a hospital or clinical setting, not ur house... that's hella shady... I think a commissioner has to be present too.