Serious question. Have you seen that boy play defense? He's gonna be such a liability unless he makes a major change that they'll barely be able to play him.
First Look At The First Big Baller Brand Sneaker "ZO2" UPDATE: THIS SH*T COST $495
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Serious question. Have you seen that boy play defense? He's gonna be such a liability unless he makes a major change that they'll barely be able to play him.
I dont differentiate wackness
Did you only watch the one game vs kentucky? He has good lenth and decent mobility to be good enough in the NBA. Theres not alot of superstar guards that you can say are good on defense, lonzo will be fine.
Especially in the NBA where he will have players and spacing for his type of flashy passing game.
DrunkerThanAMotherfucker
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"For the culture" yet the shoe is $495 
Shaq's got a point. Let's stop thinking Lavar is doing anything to help the culture or young kids.
He's stuffing his pocket. Couldn't care less about young Black kids. He married a white woman and raised his kids in the suburbs. He's using this black entrepreneurship shtick as a ploy to sell more shoes.
I hope you all don't fall for the bait.
Shaq's got a point. Let's stop thinking Lavar is doing anything to help the culture or young kids.
He's stuffing his pocket. Couldn't care less about young Black kids. He married a white woman and raised his kids in the suburbs. He's using this black entrepreneurship shtick as a ploy to sell more shoes.
I hope you all don't fall for the bait.
jetflyinglimousineriding
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End of the day, it all depends on how Lonzo plays in the NBA. If he's an all-star level/franchise player the brand can be successful & sustainable. If he isn't that good, people aren't going to be persuaded to buy the shoes/brand
holidayinn21
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Please stop quoting that unnecessary long ass post
Holy fukking shyt
Holy fukking shyt
18 pages? sheeit these dudes doing something right... like this shoe is on everybody's radar right now because of the pricing point so some people who didn't even know the shoe was being released is gonna bite
You forgot about selling product
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DrunkerThanAMotherfucker
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Shock value isn't a sustainable business practice. Neither are basketball shoes in the luxury price range.
You guys honestly think this brand has any staying power
They'll sell a few shoes and everyone will forget about this shyt in a few months after consumers realize they got scammed again.
You guys honestly think this brand has any staying power
They'll sell a few shoes and everyone will forget about this shyt in a few months after consumers realize they got scammed again.
If youre look at it from a consumer perspective sure. I really don't care what he charges. The fact that he can market and charge what he wants for his own product is very different from the athelte/shoe company model we've seen for the past 30+ years."For the culture" yet the shoe is $495
Shaq's got a point. Let's stop thinking Lavar is doing anything to help the culture or young kids.
He's stuffing his pocket. Couldn't care less about young Black kids. He married a white woman and raised his kids in the suburbs. He's using this black entrepreneurship shtick as a ploy to sell more shoes.
I hope you all don't fall for the bait.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
You did not read what I said about in general grassroots ideals Nike is exonerated from general scrutiny.
Plus built a legacy under mj only having one major bi pedal based injury early in the air Jordan one.
After being the actual shoe then worn on the greatest alpha male at the time in Bruce Jenner to John McEnroe as well.
Including all of the new wave of fitness and run performance based enthusiast of every era of modern pr and marketing.
With lavar ball, and big baller brand athletics, none of that exists.
It also has not said in its initial statement nuffin scientifically based to substantiate a wear as a performance shoe.
Which is where lifestyle wearability permeates from in this whole marketplace and industry the ball family would like to revenue grab from with rat hole based intentions.
That lack any real vision for actually crafting a performance shoe that really warrants its price tag as well.
Nor, any actual know how in the web based arena to actually be aware of brand attrition in real life or the digital plane.
Let alone how they relate to one another.
Including being un-proven in to market places as quality products as one a professional basketball player, and two a performance shoe and apparel company with a 500 to high price point.
shyt is preposterous.
They would be better off marketing why the price point is so high after an actual name change as a company moving forward.
Simply because you can not be big baller brand and try to revenue grab and you flodge'n on really having bread to begin with.
We will just have to wait till the NBA draft to see cause real talk Ben Simmons is also a rookie this year and outside of a few games so is embiid.
So, we will see if lonzo ball can actually showcase this extraordinary return on the ball court when compare against other taller players at his very position at pg whom also are better actual players.
Plus the comparison of how well that player gels and galvanizes the group.
Where both failed on similar levels as far as qualifying past the eye test from NCAA tournament play.
So we even have a rule for what and whom to judge lonzo ball upon as a rookie.
Top shelf lonzo ball could be as good as the Milwaukee bucks rookie of year prospective winner at pg. Bottom shel
Yet in comparison we do not see, ________.
Being able to warrant a 500 price point.
Nor, did we ever see Tobey bailey ever warranting a 500 price point marketed shoe, As well.
Big baller brand does not conjure up troop gym shoes and task force meets first gen ice berg sweater price points.
Especially if the first shoe is a direct ripoff of a Nike Kobe lo top sneak.
The same low top sneak that is associated with two Achilles injuries as well.
Art Barr
then just stop making the product if they don't sellYou forgot about selling product
...losses are minimal because you didn't have to invest in marketing 
DrunkerThanAMotherfucker
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Different was Shaq and Marbury taking smaller endorsement deals so they can sell affordable shoes to low income kids.