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Stop posting nonsense.

Yoruba weren’t raiding Dahomey for slaves at the height of Oyo empire. Dahomey was an Oyo vassal state.

The Dahomey Amazons were actually the ones raiding Yoruba groups after the fall of Oyo empire, especially the Egbas for slaves and that was the genesis of the Dahomey vs Egba war. And they were crushed by the Egbas.

Let me also add that, of all Yoruba groups, the Egbas had the highest number of people sold into slavery. And most of them were sold by Dahomey. One of the notable ones is Bishop Ajayi Crowder. A lot of the Afro-Brazilian slaves that returned to Lagos were of Egba descent.

Brief history of Dahomey Amazons and slave raiding of the Egbas and the eventual war that ensued:


Who is the author, and where are the notes?
 

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Weren’t the Dahomeys and extension of the Yoruba Kingdom? I thought they were the same people, same origins, just one was in Benin and the other in Nigeria.

No, they’re not Yoruba - they’re Fon. But were a vassal state of Oyo empire and Oyo protected them all the way to modern Togo at its height.

It’s the reason it went rogue after the collapse of Oyo empire and started raiding Yoruba kingdom. And even during its wars against the Egbas - the Egbas were backed by other Yoruba groups they weren’t getting along with back then.

There are also Yorubas in Benin: Ketu and Popo. Those groups are distinct from Dahomey/Fon. But in all in all, they’re like cousins to Yorubas today due to the influence of Oyo in their culture.
 

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Who is the author, and where are the notes?

I don’t know who he’s - just Googled it and his brief history is similar to what I read in books hence I posted it.

My bad, I didn’t know the link to the article wasn’t posted.

This is the full article:


BRIEF ORIGIN:
The Kingdom of Dahomey was an African kingdom that existed from 1600 until 1894 and occupied the area presently known as the Benin Republic. They were a vassal state to the Oyo empire until 1830 when Oyo fell. They were a regional power that had an organized economy built on military conquest and slave trade.

They had a reasonably large army consisting of male and female units. The female army unit was known to be brutal and destructive, housing some of the fiercest and ferocious female warriors ever seen on the continent. They were widely known for their bravery and unmatched savagery as they consistently took delight in the collection and scraping of the skulls of any enemy killed in battle

These invasions are recorded in history as the Egba-Dahomey wars. The primary cause of the conflict was the economic hardship in the kingdom of Dahomey, caused by the fall of the Oyo empire and the drop in the slave trade with Europeans.

They felt the only way they could regain economic dominance was to expand their landmass and territory to gain more slaves hence the invasion. Although, it led to resounding defeats, twice, at the hands of the Egba. First time in 1851 under King Gezo and the second in 1864 under King Gelele, son of Gezo.

The Dahomey Amazons first invaded Abeokuta on the 3rd of March, 1851. At the time, Sagbua, the Alake of Egbaland, was the King of Abeokuta, and Balogun Ogunbona, the Balogun of Ikija, was in charge of the military. Shortly before the invasion, he had ordered the repairs of the Aro walls that protected the town.

On that fateful day, the egbas saw the Dahomians coming in from Ishaga, a small town about 17 miles from Abeokuta. This threw the whole city into a state of disarray. Quick preparations were made for the army to mount a defensive around the city walls. Fortunately for them, the invasion was delayed until noon the next day as the Chief of Ishaga was able to convince the leader of the Dahomeans, a warrior lady called Seh-Dong-Hong-Beh, to shift their invasion to catch the Egbas by surprise. The chief did this to give the
Egbas ample time to plan the defense of their city.

When the time came, the Dahomey warriors attacked Abeokuta with full force. Still, the Egba army and chiefs led by the Balogun Ogunbona and the Seriki of Abeokuta were able to repel them successfully.

The Dahomean army was crushed as a good number of their army was either killed or captured. The Egbas didn’t know they were fighting women until after the war. They wanted to cut off the arms and the private parts of the prisoners and send them to the Alake, as was the custom in Abeokuta when they found out.

The Kingdom of Dahomey still fought several battles with the Egbas and attempted to revenge their defeat in 1851 by invading Abeokuta again in 1864 but were also defeated resoundingly.

The Kingdom of Dahomey still fought several battles with the Egbas and attempted to revenge their defeat in 1851 by invading Abeokuta again in 1864 but were also defeated resoundingly.

After several devastating defeats at the hands of the Egbas and the failure of their second invasion in 1864, the kingdom of Dahomey settled for peace with the Egbas.

 

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I don’t know who he’s - just Googled it and his brief history is similar to what I read in books hence I posted it.

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Thanks, I read the full article when you first posted. I was wondering what the academic background of the author was and where were the endnotes to support the events and timelines that are mentioned.

Found the answer to first question.
 

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she is my mom's age looking that fit.

Will definitely go to theaters to see this!
 

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is she ADOS/FBA? :mjgrin:
Why she playing an African? Only 3% of African Slaves were sent to America the rest of the Black people were already here for 257,643 years. Yes indeed family. Get my book First of The Mohicans. We wuz Indigenous family. Yes indeed. Don't forget to donate to that cashapp and the FBA Church building fund. Damn a museum. Y'all need to learn about these Hidden Scriptures the White supremacists have kept away from us. Yes indeed.
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I can not believe that some of y'all have never heard of Dahomey. I guess that means that y'all have also not heard of the Aro Confederacy from the modern day country of Nigeria.

Dahomey and the Aro Confederacy were slave traders. They murdered, killed and enslaved other Black to make the White man rich. Dahomey slave raiders is the reason that Ganvie Village was built. People literally moved into the middle of a swamp to avoid Dahomey slave raiders.



"...As the Dahomey kings expanded their kingdom and pressed conquered people into slavery, they came upon the Tofinu people, who escaped, and fled onto Lake Nokoue. Finding protection in the inaccessibility of the lagoon, they constructed homes built of sticks, suspended above the water level. Fortunately for the Tofinu, the slave hunters pursuing them were not allowed to follow them onto the lake because of a religious custom that disallowed them to travel on water... ."

https://hsjchronicle.com/benin-form...lage-of-ganvie-on-lake-nokoue-in-west-africa/
 

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I know what the movie is about...

I guess I shouldn't complain, at least its not another movie about slavery.. (hopefully) I just would like to see some black Sci fi about the future. Can we get something besides lip service.. A vision, a plan.. Something

Yes because they were sold into slavery in the first place and were raised by slave traders that’s how Dahomey was formed

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Stop posting nonsense.

Yoruba weren’t raiding Dahomey for slaves at the height of Oyo empire. Dahomey was an Oyo vassal state.

The Dahomey Amazons were actually the ones raiding Yoruba groups after the fall of Oyo empire, especially the Egbas for slaves and that was the genesis of the Dahomey vs Egba war. And they were crushed by the Egbas.

Let me also add that, of all Yoruba groups, the Egbas had the highest number of people sold into slavery. And most of them were sold by Dahomey. One of the notable ones is Bishop Ajayi Crowder. A lot of the Afro-Brazilian slaves that returned to Lagos were of Egba descent.

Brief history of Dahomey Amazons and slave raiding of the Egbas and the eventual war that ensued:


Thank you for posting some basic history. Dahomey was a vassal state to Oyo, which means that they were a puppet state and they had to pay tribute to Oyo or get their asses kicked. Dahomey didn't gain strength until the Yoruba civil wars. Here is more basic history about Dahomey and Oyo:

"...Through the fighting men and women, the Kingdom of Dahomey expanded its domains until the year 1730 when a devastating defeat grounded everything to a halt. Dahomey clashed with a powerful kingdom of Oyo in its west. The Kingdom failed to subdue its western neighbor and even pushed back until it faced defeat. It suffered the humiliation of paying tribute to the Kingdom of Oyo degrading them into a tributary state. For hundreds of years, Dahomey faced humilitation of having the Oyo Kingdom as overlords... ."
Rise and Fall of the Dahomey Kingdom | Searching in History

Other vassal states in that region of West Africa was Dagomba who were a sassal state to Ashanti in modern day Ghana. Dagomba was forced to pay Ashanti tribute, which they could not afford so they agreed to provide Ashanti with slaves captured in modern day Northern Ghana, Burkina Faso and Togo..
 
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