Feels like WWE crowds have turned smarky overnight

[MenacingMonk]

Not that I disagree about Seth needing something to freshen it up, but I don't really agree with the idea that heels have to hate the fans or not enjoy being cheered or shouldn't do exciting things. A heel doesn't have to be some horrible figure who hates everyone and just wants to do evil for the lulz, they just have to be willing to break the rules to win. I don't think a heel has to be an antagonist to the fans as much as their opponents.

That doesn’t work in today’s climate if the character is getting cheered already. fukkin no one in that 3 way was exactly a heel going in, so why would they suddenly boo Seth just because Heyman aligned with him? Adding Bron to the mix, who wasn’t getting heel heat before either, wasn’t gonna work.

Let’s see how the crowds react in the upcoming weeks, but right now, in terms of getting heat, it looks like Trips shot himself in the foot with this stable.

 

[stro]

That doesn’t work in today’s climate if the character is getting cheered already. fukkin no one in that 3 way was exactly a heel going in, so why would they suddenly boo Seth just because Heyman aligned with him? Adding Bron to the mix, who wasn’t getting heel heat before either, wasn’t gonna work.

Let’s see how the crowds react in the upcoming weeks, but right now, in terms of getting heat, it looks like Trips shot himself in the foot with this stable.

I would say the biggest fear people should have is them turning Bron into a boring guy in a suit who loses 90% of whatever people liked about him before trying to elevate him to a main event level heel guy, which is what they've done for about 20 years straight for dudes in the same situation.

 

[MenacingMonk]

I would say the biggest fear people should have is them turning Bron into a boring guy in a suit who loses 90% of whatever people liked about him before trying to elevate him to a main event level heel guy, which is what they've done for about 20 years straight for dudes in the same situation.

I mean, dressing like a cowboy biker is better?

Bron’s “casual” clothing won’t affect his fandom. The guy is already over. But Trips gotta find some way to make them legit heels unless he just goes with the flow.

 

[The_Dread_Dormammu]

I don't think it's a smark takeover, but more so fans just being drawn towards the heel. The street profits and Lashley's heel turn didn't go as planned, for this very reason. It's nothing different from what we've been seeing for years tbh. They chanted one more time when Seth got tsunami. Booed Bayley when she feuded with Alexa. Rock n hogan at mania 18.

Sami has been a bit boring for awhile. Of course they'll cheer for Seth over him. Sometimes the heels are simply more intriguing than the faces

This

 

[stro]

I mean, dressing like a cowboy biker is better?

Bron’s “casual” clothing won’t affect his fandom. The guy is already over. But Trips gotta find some way to make them legit heels unless he just goes with the flow.

It's more personality changing shyt and WWE loves to turn an up and coming promising mid card guy into a boring main event guy who wears suits and has no personality.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

The heels at the top don't do enough heel shyt and the babyfaces don't do enough babyface stuff.

Examples:

Bianca Belair

• lobbied to get a fan favorite Rhea not in a wrestlemania match
• complained the entire time about her presence
• ignored and piefaced another fan favorite Iyo during the fued
• Played neutral during the naomi / jade fued which had CLEAR babyface/heel dynamics

why would you cheer for her?

Seth Rollins

• dresses fancy and struts to the ring, but not in a heelish way
• has a sing a long song and roots on the fans
• outlined clearly why Paul heyman SHOULD choose him over reigns and CM Punk
• Plays to the crowd all the time
• Aligned himself with fan favorite bron breakker who is a tweener at worst and doesn't do heel shyt and also plays to the crowd regularly

why would you boo him?

Street Profits

• flips back and forth between heel and face all the time with no reason
• plays to the crowd as a babyface
• cuts relatively heel promos
• faces babyface tag teams DIY and Guns

why would you cheer OR boo them???



The ones that have clear heel and babyface characteristics like Orton, Bayley, Pentagon, AJ Styles, CM Punk, Jey, Owens, Gable, american alpha, viking raiders, logan, Rey, Finn, etc get the right responses. Booking is doing the others no favors and fans are just cheering and booing them depending if they're 'cool' or not.

 

[DaHNIC82]

Sami need to go scorched earth on them like Foley did