FBI ran child porn site for two weeks in attempt to identify over 5,000 pedophiles

[Lord Beasley]

Did Brook give them IPs to the feds though?

got these nikkas waitin on a response like

 

[Nefflum nigga]

demonic

 

[Type Username Here]

Entrapment?

No.

In this case, the FBI simply let a standing site keep operating. It didn't create this website out of thin air. The FBI stated that this website had members openly talking about abducting children, along with sharing CP. They let it run as usual while maintaining tabs on the users, some of which the FBI had issues tracking down. This allowed them to sift through the proxies and cloaking methods used by these people.

Entrapment would mean that this people had no intention of committing this crime but the FBI somehow forced them to. That was not the case here.

This was more like a honeypot sting.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

My only reservation here would be if the FBI genuinely wants to catch these creeps and not use them for further immoral false flagish operations that they've come to love so much.

Only you would bring some bullshyt about "false flags" into this thread.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Anybody remember when that dude cristian on sohh was passionately arguing that the claims of pedos' recidivism rates were exaggerated by the media?

I don't even know if he was right or not, but that seemed so weird to get riled up about and research online.

 

[Type Username Here]

Anybody remember when that dude cristian on sohh was passionately arguing that the claims of pedos' recidivism rates were exaggerated by the media?

I don't even know if he was right or not, but that seemed so weird to get riled up about and research online.

The problem is that sometimes the media and some of these statistics don't differentiate between a sexual predator and/or sexual offender. Sometimes a man who took a piss in public and a child happens to see can get arrested and charged as a sexual offender, or a 18 year old kid who turned 18, despite being with his 16 year old girlfriend prior to his birthday, can be charged with statutory rape and labeled as a predator.

To me those things, while they can be argued as crimes and immoral, is totally different than having sex with infants, toddlers or pre-pubescent children. Don't know why the media bunches them all together.

 

[Broke Wave]

a honey pot is a very legally ambiguous and morally ambiguous operation... facilitating the ability for criminals to commit crimes in order to catch them... the crimes have already been committed for one, and for two making it so attractive that maybe people who wouldn't have been criminals would commit crimes

 

[Type Username Here]

a honey pot is a very legally ambiguous and morally ambiguous operation... facilitating the ability for criminals to commit crimes in order to catch them... the crimes have already been committed for one, and for two making it so attractive that maybe people who wouldn't have been criminals would commit crimes

Again, entrapment means that law enforcement basically forces someone to commit a criminal act they would have not normally committed.

Someone would have to search for this website, and then, under their own accord, click on the link. They could have accessed other sites as well. No entrapment there.

Entrapment would be if all these CP sites were down, the FBI then propped open a site and started sending emails to people with the link.

 

[Broke Wave]

Again, entrapment means that law enforcement basically forces someone to commit a criminal act they would have not normally committed.

Someone would have to search for this website, and then, under their own accord, click on the link. They could have accessed other sites as well. No entrapment there.

Entrapment would be if all these CP sites were down, the FBI then propped open a site and started sending emails to people with the link.

yeah im familiar as to what the difference between them is but I think that it's not that clear cut, sometimes the line is blurred. the biggest recent honeypot was this website carderplanet.net where the FBI created an easy to access fraud forum and basically just monitored all the PM's and brought the hammer down after a year. Within that year they already had made it so easy to do fraud that it can be kind of argued that they created a situation in which fraud was almost too easy to do. That's why I think it's a 50 50 type of deal depending on the operations.

 

[Type Username Here]

yeah im familiar as to what the difference between them is but I think that it's not that clear cut, sometimes the line is blurred. the biggest recent honeypot was this website carderplanet.net where the FBI created an easy to access fraud forum and basically just monitored all the PM's and brought the hammer down after a year. Within that year they already had made it so easy to do fraud that it can be kind of argued that they created a situation in which fraud was almost too easy to do. That's why I think it's a 50 50 type of deal depending on the operations.

Okay, I see. Doesn't seem like entrapment either. Making a crime easy to do might be morally questionable, but I don't know if it is illegal. The person still has to willfully commit to doing these crimes on their own accord.

That's not to say that the FBI doesn't use entrapment. Some, not all, of these cases involving would-be Muslim attackers can be argued is definitely entrapment.

 

[Broke Wave]

Okay, I see. Doesn't seem like entrapment either. Making a crime easy to do might be morally questionable, but I don't know if it is illegal. The person still has to willfully commit to doing these crimes on their own accord.

That's not to say that the FBI doesn't use entrapment. Some, not all, of these cases involving would-be Muslim attackers can be argued is definitely entrapment.

It's crazy how the FBI's obsession with Al Qaeda has kind of made them look

When's the last time we really heard of a big take down of a criminal organization or a long Donnie Brasco type joint go on? They're focused on seeing which psycho is gonna put c4 in his Hanes which is a good focus but do you need the entire FBI doing counter-terrorism work, infiltrating mosques and posting "Yeah man, I wanna kill Americans too, lets meet up?" on forums all day?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

a honey pot is a very legally ambiguous and morally ambiguous operation... facilitating the ability for criminals to commit crimes in order to catch them... the crimes have already been committed for one, and for two making it so attractive that maybe people who wouldn't have been criminals would commit crimes

Get that loser ass cac out your avatar.

 

[Box Cutta]

Anyone seen @Box Cutta posting lately?

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[Type Username Here]

It's crazy how the FBI's obsession with Al Qaeda has kind of made them look

When's the last time we really heard of a big take down of a criminal organization or a long Donnie Brasco type joint go on? They're focused on seeing which psycho is gonna put c4 in his Hanes which is a good focus but do you need the entire FBI doing counter-terrorism work, infiltrating mosques and posting "Yeah man, I wanna kill Americans too, lets meet up?" on forums all day?

To be fair to them, they got thrown under the bus after 9/11. The were humiliated by the Bush Administration publicly and then ordered to refocus.

The revelation came as legislators demanded an explanation after an FBI memo alluding to ignored warning signs about Sept. 11 emerged. Two months before the hijackings, FBI agents in Phoenix reported their suspicions about Arab students at a Phoenix flight school, and directly referred to the possibility of a connection to bin Laden.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91651&page=1#.Uaamp2Sgm5I


They successfully stomped out the old school organized crimes syndicates in my opinion, and had to fill in their time with petty drug war shyt. They did make some mistakes that warranted criticisms but they did warn that fukker as well.

 

[Broke Wave]

Get that loser ass cac out your avatar.

To be fair to them, they got thrown under the bus after 9/11. The were humiliated by the Bush Administration publicly and then ordered to refocus.



http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91651&page=1#.Uaamp2Sgm5I


They successfully stomped out the old school organized crimes syndicates in my opinion, and had to fill in their time with petty drug war shyt. They did make some mistakes that warranted criticisms but they did warn that fukker as well.

You think they stomped out the old crime syndicates? I'm pretty sure the Mob is still alive and well and there are new and more dangerous joints out there like the Cartels and what not... Maybe the organized crime has gone under ground but I doubt they actually crushed them.