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A lot of us on here told yall how obvious it is that crime is way up, just off of observation alone (social media tells a lot), but yall swore that was a lie. The FBI revised the crime rate and it shows how true it is:


FBI data shows violent crime up 10.4%, property crime up 6.4% since 2019​


  • By Kenneth Schrupp | The Center Square
  • Oct 17, 2024 Updated 1 hr ago

(The Center Square) - Annual FBI crime victimization surveys show violent crime is up 10.4% and property crime is up 6.4% between 2019 and 2023.
Each year, the FBI releases headline crime report data for the calendar year prior, and a separate crime victimization survey that asks Americans what crimes they have been the victims of. Comparing these reports provides insight into crime reporting rates and the accuracy of crime statistics.
While earlier reporting demonstrated that theft is worsening and often underreported, the growing divergence between the FBI’s annual crime victimization survey and its tabulations of reported crime indicates worsening trends in theft.
However, recent changes in how crime reporting data is collected, along with anomalous 2020 COVID-era data and reporting, have muddied the waters.

 

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A lot of us on here told yall how obvious it is that crime is way up, just off of observation alone (social media tells a lot), but yall swore that was a lie. The FBI revised the crime rate and it shows how true it is:

Its all about getting certain people elected. Thats when they play with the numbers. A lot of crimes go unreported.
 

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"However, recent changes in how crime reporting data is collected, along with anomalous 2020 COVID-era data and reporting, have muddied the waters.

The FBI set a January 1, 2021 deadline back in 2016 for agencies to transition from the paper-based Summary Reporting System, which reports each incident of crime with the worst crime committed in the incident, with the computer-based National Incident-Based Reporting System, which can log up to 10 crimes per incident. But 40% of law enforcement agencies didn’t make the change in time. This included most agencies in populous California, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Florida, and the two largest agencies: New York Police Department and Los Angeles Police Department. "
 

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@bnew GET YOUR ASS IN HERE. WERE YOU LYING??
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it says "crime victimization survey". is that the same as the "crime rate"?
Both candidates are citing different federal statistics that measure violent crime; Trump cites a Justice Department survey, while Harris cites FBI data on crimes reported by police departments.

Crime researchers tell CBS News that while both are valuable metrics, the FBI data Harris cites is more reliable, and she is correct that it suggests violent crime is at a near 50-year low. However, both Trump and Harris overlook the significant impact of COVID-19 when comparing current crime rates to 2020, researchers say.

Breaking down Trump's claim that crime has "skyrocketed"​

Central to Trump's claim that crime has "skyrocketed" is a federal survey which estimates national crime rates by asking a sample of people whether they experienced a crime in the last six months.

In a recent post on social media, Trump said, "Compared to 2020, violent crime is up nearly 40 percent." That figure aligns with estimates from the latest National Crime Victimization Survey, known as the NCVS, by the Department of Justice, which found that the rate of violent crime offenses — defined as rape, robbery and aggravated assault, but not including homicide — was about 37% higher in 2023 than in 2020.



Crime researchers say the survey findings are valuable because they can capture some instances of crimes that often go unreported to police. But the survey's violent crime estimates exclude murders and are limited by a margin of error, according to Jeff Asher, a crime data analyst and co-founder of AH Datalytics.

"The 2023 NCVS showed violent crime likely fell slightly from 2022 levels and was not statistically different from where it was in 2019. Comparing one favorable year of NCVS to a less favorable year is simply cherry-picking the data source without considering the overall trend and without acknowledging a potentially large margin of error," Asher said.

What research shows about violent crime under Biden-Harris​

Experts more commonly refer to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, which tracks crimes reported to police by participating law enforcement agencies. According to that FBI, the rate of violent crimes — defined as rape, robbery, aggravated assault and homicide — was around 6% lower in 2023 than in 2020.

Harris' claim that violent crime dropped to a "near 50-year low" is accurate, according to analysis by Asher. The 2023 violent crime rate is just slightly above the rates reported in 2014 and 2021, which are the lowest reported since 1970.



"It's an accurate statement based on the FBI data, though I prefer to say 'reported violent crime is at or near a 50-year low' for precise accuracy given that not every violent crime is reported to the police," Asher said.

The FBI's figures are estimates, and participation by police agencies is voluntary, but the FBI said more than 16,000 law enforcement agencies (out of about 18,000 nationwide) provided data for 2023.

Other research corroborates these trends. For example, the Major Cities Chiefs Association reported a 9.1% decrease in murders from 2020 to 2023 in 70 large U.S. cities.

AH Datalytics found total violent crime reports were lower in 2023 compared to 2020 and that they have continued to decline in 2024.
 
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