FBI investigating police homicide of armed homeless man.

[Type Username Here]

Breh, the police out here don't even use logical protocol...There have been 2 other shootings besides this one in the past 3 weeks. They just use guns as a one stop answer before anything else for years now.

I always felt that in a perfect society, the Federal or Central government would investigate every police shooting that results in a death. Bring an outside agency to assess each killing done by the police. Here in Florida, we have several police units under investigation for killings and excessive force.

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

I always felt that in a perfect society, the Federal or Central government would investigate every police shooting that results in a death. Bring an outside agency to assess each killing done by the police. Here in Florida, we have several police units under investigation for killings and excessive force.

That SHOULD happen, but other agencies don't care unless people repeatedly bring it up and it shouldn't be like that.

 

[Higher Tech]

I was wondering when you guys were going to talk about this.



FBI is investigating APD because they have killed 23 people in 3 years and this set off a lot of people plus it didn't the man was cooperating with police and was mentally ill. There were two protests out here the last 2 days. One last 12 hours and they had all of APD out there. They were marching up and down demanding the chief of police resign. They also climbed up on the I-25 freeway and stopped traffic to protest. Anonymous even posted a video against APD.

Well holy fukk. Those motherfukkers are serial killers.

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

Well holy fukk. Those motherfukkers are serial killers.

I took 2 college classes with this guy who was a APD cop, he killed his wife and had his cop buddies cover for him and he got off for killing her and got her insurance. He staged it as a "suicide".

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — The father of a New Mexico woman whose husband was acquitted of murder said Friday the family still believes former Albuquerque police officer Levi Chavez staged her suicide.

"Justice was not served," Joseph Cordova told the Albuquerque Journal () and KOAT-TV ( ). "He was found not guilty, which in our eyes is not innocent."

A Sandoval County jury on Tuesday acquitted Chavez of first-degree murder and evidence tampering in the 2007 death of their daughter, Tera Chavez, who was shot in the mouth with her estranged husband's department-issued gun.

"No one can tell me that someone that's going to commit suicide would turn a gun upside down, in a difficult position, shove it all the way to the back of their throat and then pull that trigger," Cordova said. "This was not a suicide. This is a person that was able to commit murder and get away with it."

Jurors, however, said there was no solid evidence to prove the prosecution's assertion that Chavez killed his wife and made it look like suicide.

"I feel that if all the evidence was allowed into this trial, I definitely feel that the verdict would have been much different," he said. "We just couldn't meet beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm not pointing the finger at the jury. They did what they could do."

Cordova said his daughter, who had a son and daughter with Levi Chavez, would never have killed herself and "left those beautiful children."

He said he and his wife, Theresa, have not been allowed any contact with the grandchildren since around the time their son-in-law was indicted in April 2011.

 

[Higher Tech]

I took 2 college classes with this guy who was a APD cop, he killed his wife and had his cop buddies cover for him and he got off for killing her and got her insurance. He staged it as a "suicide".

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — The father of a New Mexico woman whose husband was acquitted of murder said Friday the family still believes former Albuquerque police officer Levi Chavez staged her suicide.

"Justice was not served," Joseph Cordova told the Albuquerque Journal () and KOAT-TV ( ). "He was found not guilty, which in our eyes is not innocent."

A Sandoval County jury on Tuesday acquitted Chavez of first-degree murder and evidence tampering in the 2007 death of their daughter, Tera Chavez, who was shot in the mouth with her estranged husband's department-issued gun.

"No one can tell me that someone that's going to commit suicide would turn a gun upside down, in a difficult position, shove it all the way to the back of their throat and then pull that trigger," Cordova said. "This was not a suicide. This is a person that was able to commit murder and get away with it."

Jurors, however, said there was no solid evidence to prove the prosecution's assertion that Chavez killed his wife and made it look like suicide.

"I feel that if all the evidence was allowed into this trial, I definitely feel that the verdict would have been much different," he said. "We just couldn't meet beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm not pointing the finger at the jury. They did what they could do."

Cordova said his daughter, who had a son and daughter with Levi Chavez, would never have killed herself and "left those beautiful children."

He said he and his wife, Theresa, have not been allowed any contact with the grandchildren since around the time their son-in-law was indicted in April 2011.

Wow. That shyt is nuts. I didn't know they were crazy like that.

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

Wow. That shyt is nuts. I didn't know they were crazy like that.

Its been crazy like that breh, cops out here are ruthless as fukk. I've had cops pull me and people i know over on some fukk shyt just to set us up. Give blank tickets, plant dope on people for higher chargers, fire at cars before the people get out, drive the wrong way on roads and hit someone, you fukking name it. It dont matter if its APD or State Police, both of them are trigger happy. All the cops that have been murdering people have been put on paid vacation and if it comes out there fault, they just been reassigned and that's it.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

God damn is everything race related on this site?

get the fukk on if you can't handle reality

 

[RatherUnique]

On a similar note. There was only 33 police officers killed by gunfire in the United States in 2013. 40+ died in car wrecks. When you include everything from gunfire, car wrecks to heart attacks, just over 100 died. Last year was the least amount of Police killed by gunfire since the late 1880's.

Yet the number of people killed by police is probably astronomical, but there is no definite number, because the U.S gov, which keeps numbers on EVERYTHING, says it does not record how many people police kill each year. It makes one wonder the motive the government has to not keep numbers on such a serious matter of public safety and law. They want it hidden.

 

[allshaftnohead]

Obviously had no effect in this case since they shot him even with the video rolling, but I don't see why people shouldn't demand that all police departments do this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/us/in-california-a-champion-for-police-cameras.html?_r=0

"In the first year after the cameras were introduced here in February 2012, the number of complaints filed against officers fell by 88 percent compared with the previous 12 months. Use of force by officers fell by almost 60 percent over the same period."

Those are RIDICULOUS numbers. I imagine just knowing that absolutely all of their movements are on camera and not just those in front of the dash cam gets them to slow their roll a little when it comes to this kinda crap. I wonder if there are other examples of this causing drastic changes.

 

[RatherUnique]

Obviously had no effect in this case since they shot him even with the video rolling, but I don't see why people shouldn't demand that all police departments do this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/us/in-california-a-champion-for-police-cameras.html?_r=0

"In the first year after the cameras were introduced here in February 2012, the number of complaints filed against officers fell by 88 percent compared with the previous 12 months. Use of force by officers fell by almost 60 percent over the same period."

Those are RIDICULOUS numbers. I imagine just knowing that absolutely all of their movements are on camera and not just those in front of the dash cam gets them to slow their roll a little when it comes to this kinda crap. I wonder if there are other examples of this causing drastic changes.

The main argument i hear is it's too much $. But honestly that is bs, because it's not uncommon for large police departments to spend millions and millions per year on brutality settlements. In reality it should be required on all street patrols at least.

It keeps the public safe from the serious brutality problems in the U.S police "culture," and it protects officers from false accusations. Everybody wins.

In Manchester England last year, 2 unarmed police officers showed up to a burglary call - which turned out to be an ambush. A criminal who had killed 2 people already, shot both police down in the abandoned house as they tried to flee, then threw a grenade onto their bodies. After this police in Manchester were polled, and something like 80-90% said they did not want to be armed.

Meanwhile police in the Boyd murder had tactical armor, numbers, a canine, high powered rifles, pistols, beanbags, flash bang grenades, tasers, and still had to kill a homeless man on a mountain who had pen knives. Bunch of shook b*stards.

It's crazy how so many U.S police officers fight cameras, pretty much because they want continue to operate as they please on the job. Meanwhile other developed country police departments fight something like being armed, even tho it put's their own well being at higher risk - because they believe if they were armed, their relationship with the public they serve would no longer be as natural and healthy.

The problem in this country is historical. From the weird "hero-worship," right down to police having ALWAYS been able to police themselves. fukkin' sheriffs used to be Klansmen just a few generations back.